NoLieGuy:

I am curious. Are you using government resources, (computer equipment) and are you on the clock when you are posting your messages to this board?

sackett wrote on Mar 13^th, 2008 at 3:20pm:



SO MUCH FOR CLAIM THAT CM'S DON'T WORK

notguilty1 wrote on Mar 13^th, 2008 at 3:23pm:


"notguilty1", 

I have already stated in previous postings (you're not paying attention again) that influencing physiology/biology during a test can certainly effect an examination.  If your examiner is sleeping or playing cards during the test (for example) he won't catch them.  BUT, if I and other examiners know what to look for (thanks George for making an easy to read guide of the opposing team's playbook) during the examination, your efforts at CM's will not only be fruitless but also seem very lame when attempted.  

Suprisingly, I am one of this site's biggest supporters; amongst examiners...! 



Sackett

T.M. Cullen wrote on Mar 13^th, 2008 at 6:09pm:



I don't necessarily diagree, but, isn't this supposed to be about free speech? An open debate of polygraph, etc, etc.  Opinions ARE opinions.

This has nothing to do with family members...  Initally I had no idea why you made that statement...Then, I realized my address.  Well, if you don't use a moniker or false name like the rest, and you only use initials, I have no idea that you were male or female.  The last thing I want to do is be accused of is being sexist on top of all the other names I get here.  You have now made it clear, Mr Cullen.

I don't what you mean by "tossed."  If you mean banning them, I think there have been a couple in the past in which he has banned (from recollection). Maybe I'm mistaken, probably not.

Regarding "outing" an examiner, there has been numerous incident in the past where George has purposefully followed up on IP addresses and reported their origins here in order to "out" the poster as an examiner.  Most recently, the "outing" of several examiners who posted here under assumed names (through the cutesy identification by fairly tale/fictional characters, etc) obviously in an attempt to embarrass them, was noted.  Regardless of their intent or supposed conspiracy.  Is this the same free speech under the provisions of anonymity afforded to all?  I Don't think so...  Nothing of the same attempt has ever been done to any "anti" poster that I'm aware of.

Sackett  

P.S.  George banned "LALE" because he was personally insulting and "over the top."  I believe he'll be back under a different name and log in.  His personality/ego can't let him stay away...I say within 2 weeks we'll see a "new" poster proclaiming all the garbage he was spewing....

George,

I only protest inequality when methinks equality is proclaimed and I do not experience or observe it.

As a moderator on Polygraphplace.com, I have not deleted or removed any postings (except my own) in the several years I have been on the site.

Further, the purpose of the Polygraph Place web site is to provide a place where interested people can inquire of polygraph examiners, their thoughts concerning issues personal to the poster.   

Polygraphplace.com IS NOT an open discussion venue/forum whereby attacks on the profession may be launched. That is what happens here!

Sackett

     NoPolyCop,

   You asked: "NoLieGuy:

I am curious. Are you using government resources, (computer equipment) and are you on the clock when you are posting your messages to this board?"

My Response:  You may assume that I own my own computer, participate on my own free time, and that my opinions, thoughts, and deliberations are my own as an individual.   

May I ask you, was your experience with the polygraph one related to a pre-employment test (depending on the era you were hired in), or was it related to an I.A..  Was that / Were any; of those I.A.'s sustained ?  Further, given that you claim to still carry a badge, are you participating in this forum on tax payer time, or simply from home or off time ?

  nopolycop,

YOU WROTE:  "Afterall, no one has enough free time of their own to write the missives you write, I figured you gotta be getting paid for it."

  Thank You for your thirty years of service.  I am not currently working for any U.S. Gov. agency, and rather suffered a stroke a while back.  Therefore, as you might imagine, I still apply myself and work as best and how I can, but do have time on my hands.  While I might qualify in what we know as the "Americans with Disabilities Act", I am made of the same grit as you, drink my coffee black, and have cut back on most donuts.  Nobody is paying me to share my experiences and I too write from my heart.  That my experiences are different than yours is what this board is all about as the moderator would have us provide a macro view of who is out there, and what their polygraph experience(s) are.  Where we differ is only that you and others seek to ban all of this, while I want to raise the standard as to WHO does these tests.  The computer is neutral, and it is the human element which must be worked on / improved. BOTH the Examiner and the test subjects, but not by CM's ; rather by each applying themselves to plain Truth, and not rationalization / omission / or avoidance.   

Quote:


How do you know you were "false positive" on your first test considering the fact that you failed?

How can you be sure you were telling the truth?  How could you be telling the truth without the polygrapher knowing?

Maybe you're going stark raving mad!

Or maybe you've just entered the 

"POLYGRAPH ZONE"

Do do do do   do do do do
 



Maybe you've become an unwitting pawn of Al Qaeda and the evil forces of Osama, by trying to expose the pseudo-scientific underpinnings of the polygrapher mind.