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Reply #45 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 10:59pm
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If you give polygraphs, then you are an abuser.  It goes with the territory.  Those asshole's faces are burned into my memory.

Can you handle the truth?

If you can't take unfavorable actions against someone based solely on the crappity smacking thing, why give it at all?

I'll tell you why, so you can use that psychological billy club that Doug talks about.

It's a crappity smacking sham and innocent Americans are having their individual rights violated.
  

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Reply #46 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:00pm
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Ahh, so that's it. You think I am a polygraph examiner. You are so full of rage that you are seeing polygraph examiners under your bed.
  
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Reply #47 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:08pm
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I've seen enough of your posts on here to realize that you are a polygraph proponent.  If you're not, I apologize for associating you with those abusers.  If you are, I hope you realize someday that what you are doing ruins innocent lives.

You are absolutely correct, rage is a component of PTSD, as are nightmares, insomnia and depression.

  

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Reply #48 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:11pm
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Okay John. I guess I should have set you straight before. I am not a proponent, nor a polygraph examiner. I am an engineer and find the discussion lively and stimulating. What you see in my posts is someone on the fence who probes both sides. I try to be a voice of moderation here as I see little to be gained in total polarization. Sorry for using the "F" word then as it was a misunderstanding.
  
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Reply #49 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:25pm
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Ex Member wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 10:58pm:
Doug Williams wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
So all this talk about theories is nothing but bullshit.


Doug, I don't think anyone was defending these theories, just shaking them out to see if they pass the reasonableness test.


OK – then let me ask you this. Do you think they pass the "reasonableness test"?
  

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Reply #50 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:27pm
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John M. wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:08pm:
You are absolutely correct, rage is a component of PTSD, as are nightmares, insomnia and depression.


Now that you don't have to take another polygraph, you might want to consider a high CBD Indica Hybrid and try to chill out a bit.  Wink
  
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Reply #51 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:41pm
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Doug Williams wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:25pm:
OK – then let me ask you this. Do you think they pass the "reasonableness test"? 


Bayesian probability establishes a prior probability (a-priori), which is then updated to a posterior probability with the availment of new data. So it depends on how that a-priori is established. But, your perspective is more intuitive when you say that there is no physiological response indicative of deception - no Pinocchio's Nose response. Moreover, you are correct that the polygraph instrument measures mostly fear (sympathetic arousal). When people lie, there indeed are physiological reactions that can be measured with the polygraph instrument. But, other psycho-physiological mechanisms (guilt, anxiety, vivid memories or just plain mental work) can precipitate similar, if not identical, activity. The David exists in every slab of marble, the genius lies in removing the unwanted particles.
  
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Reply #52 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:47pm
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Doug Williams wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:25pm:
OK – then let me ask you this. Do you think they pass the "reasonableness test"?


In my professional opinion -- and I am a "certified" polygraph examiner -- the answer isn't simply "no," it's "HELL NO!"

That said, the polygraph is one helluva psychological billy club. Indeed, it gets results.

Aye, there's the rub.
  
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Reply #53 - Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:53pm
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Ex Member wrote on Aug 29th, 2017 at 11:41pm:
The David exists in every slab of marble, the genius lies in removing the unwanted particles. 
                   


So one has to wonder, what percentage of polygraph operators are a Michelangelo?

Anyone wanna take a SWAG?

Regardless, that means the "test" is an art -- not a science.
  
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Reply #54 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 12:21pm
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quickfix wrote on Aug 28th, 2017 at 6:50pm:
The only difference is we are not convicted felons like you.


Quickfix -  You are the criminal.  You also lied on the oath you took to the Constitution (probably because you are too dumb to understand the Constitution) which still makes you a traitor.  Doug Williams is a righteous man, a patriot, who was falsely condemned and made a political prisoner by an evil government.  History does repeat itself.  People very similar to today's polygraph examiners, Nazi concentration camp guards, once were the legal authorities and the people they abused in the camps were legally condemned.  Hopefully justice will eventually reach today's polygraph examiners just as it did the concentration camp guards.   You are entertaining though, I'll give you that.  Wink
  
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Reply #55 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 6:40pm
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I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the absence of complaints on this forum about EPPA polygraph examinations.
  

No good social purpose can be served by inventing ways of beating the lie detector or deceiving polygraphers.   David Thoreson Lykken
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Reply #56 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 6:48pm
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Wandersmann wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 12:21pm:
Quickfix -  You are the criminal.  You also lied on the oath you took to the Constitution (probably because you are too dumb to understand the Constitution) which still makes you a traitor.  Doug Williams is a righteous man, a patriot, who was falsely condemned and made a political prisoner by an evil government.  History does repeat itself.  People very similar to today's polygraph examiners, Nazi concentration camp guards, once were the legal authorities and the people they abused in the camps were legally condemned.  Hopefully justice will eventually reach today's polygraph examiners just as it did the concentration camp guards.   You are entertaining though, I'll give you that.

News Flash:  Dougy the cockroach is a convicted felon, an ex-con, a criminal who PLED GUILTY.  He knowingly committed crimes and arrogantly though he would never get caught.  He got a better plea deal than he deserved.  I hope his parole officer violates him back to the slammer.  His next book should be called "From Cop to Convict".
  
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Reply #57 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:10pm
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Quickfix  spewed forth this venomous post: [/quote]
News Flash:  Dougy the cockroach is a convicted felon, an ex-con, a criminal who PLED GUILTY.  He knowingly committed crimes and arrogantly though he would never get caught.  He got a better plea deal than he deserved.  I hope his parole officer violates him back to the slammer.  His next book should be called "From Cop to Convict".[/quote

I'll respond as follows: Let's all remember what my prosecution was really all about – according to John R  Swartz, one of the polygraph examiner's from the CBP/IA, they came after me for "protesting the loudest and longest against the polygraph". I think the hatred that I seem to engender in the polygraph community stems from the fact that I am telling the truth and they are lying - as the old saying goes – "Above all else the devil hates to be mocked". And I have spent 40 years mocking these polygraph thugs and exposing their evil deeds so it is no wonder they want to destroy me. But the fact of the matter is: I'm right  and they are wrong.  But as Voltaire once said "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong".  So these polygraph thugs can manufacture a crime and bring me up on bogus charges and throw me in prison, but that still does not make them right and it still does not make me wrong.  Quickfix, you and your cohorts in the polygraph industry are evil, you are abusing hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and you will soon be exposed for what you are - traitors, frauds and charlatans.  And I feel certain that history will treat me much kinder than it does you.
  

I have been fighting the thugs and charlatans in the polygraph industry for forty years.  I tell about my crusade against the insidious Orwellian polygraph industry in my book FALSE CONFESSIONS - THE TRUE STORY OF DOUG WILLIAMS' CRUSADE AGAINST THE ORWELLIAN POLYGRAPH INDUSTRY.  Please visit my website POLYGRAPH.COM and follow me on TWITTER @DougWilliams_PG


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Reply #58 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:20pm
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You pled guilty to committing criminal acts, not for protesting the loudest.  In case you've forgotten, a guilty plea is the same as if you were tried and convicted.  You sound just like the typical criminal, another "innocent" person who was railroaded.  Simple fact is, you are just another scummy little pimp incarcerated for engaging in criminal conduct.  With any luck we'll see you back in prison getting butt-crappity smacked by Whitey, Lumpy and Bruiser.
  
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Reply #59 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:38pm
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quickfix wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
You pled guilty to committing criminal acts, not for protesting the loudest.  In case you've forgotten, a guilty plea is the same as if you were tried and convicted.  You sound just like the typical criminal, another "innocent" person who was railroaded.  Simple fact is, you are just another scummy little pimp incarcerated for engaging in criminal conduct.  With any luck we'll see you back in prison getting butt-crappity smacked by Whitey, Lumpy and Bruiser.


You can rant and rave all you like, but the fact remains I am right and you are wrong. I am telling the truth about the so-called "lie detector", and you are lying.
  

I have been fighting the thugs and charlatans in the polygraph industry for forty years.  I tell about my crusade against the insidious Orwellian polygraph industry in my book FALSE CONFESSIONS - THE TRUE STORY OF DOUG WILLIAMS' CRUSADE AGAINST THE ORWELLIAN POLYGRAPH INDUSTRY.  Please visit my website POLYGRAPH.COM and follow me on TWITTER @DougWilliams_PG


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