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Reply #60 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:42pm
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Doug Williams wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:38pm:
You can rant and rave all you like, but the fact remains I am right and you are wrong. I am telling the truth about the so-called "lie detector", and you are lying.

Just like you were right during your trial, huh?   Cheesy
  
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Reply #61 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 9:16pm
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What you see in my posts is someone on the fence who probes both sides. I try to be a voice of moderation here as I see little to be gained in total polarization.

There should be no fence to sit on.  There is only one way to look at the use and abuse of the polygraph and it must be put to a stop immediately.  I will not "chill out" until it is.  As truth is my sword.

Any attempts to legitimize polygraph "testing" are helping to perpetuate the lie.  People like quickfix, a known abuser, are getting away with ruining innocent people's lives and no one seems to give a shit.  Hell, the NCAA told Mark Zaid on Twitter that sometimes you have to "break a few eggs to make an omelette".  WTF?

People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they're afraid it might be true. Peoples' heads are full of knowledge, facts and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.




  

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Reply #62 - Aug 30th, 2017 at 11:56pm
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quickfix wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
In case you've forgotten, a guilty plea is the same as if you were tried and convicted.


No it isn't.  When you have limited means and the State is out to get you, it is often the only way to survive.  Convicted FBI Agent John Connolly received a 40 year sentence instead of a much lesser sentence because he allegedly knew of a murder that was going to be convicted and did nothing to stop it.  Even though he was miles away from the murder when it occurred, they added all of those years to his sentence because he committed a crime with a firearm.  Even though he was required to be armed as an FBI Agent, he did not use the gun in the crime.  His gun had absolutely nothing to do with the alleged crime.  They added that bogus,  nonsensical charge because they knew they could get away with it.  How can anyone win in a legal system like this one ? Our failed legal system is so messed up that the innocent are getting convicted and the guilty aren't even being charged.   Angry
  
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Reply #63 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 12:36am
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quickfix wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
With any luck we'll see you back in prison getting butt-crappity smacked by Whitey, Lumpy and Bruiser.


OK, now I have to throw down the bull shit card.   Grin  Quickfix, you have previously identified yourself as an employee of the Federal Government and you have offered information regarding Federal policy.  This means everything you post on this site is on behalf of the Federal government.  You may not be able to comprehend this, but it doesn't matter whether you post from your computer at work or from your home computer.  If your identity and the content of posts like the above ever came under public scrutiny you would be fired so fast they wouldn't let the door hit you in the ass.   

Now I really have to question if you are who you say you are.  I'm beginning to think you might be a 40 year old Walter Mitty loser who lives in his mother's basement and plays on the computer all day.  Is this what is really going on ?  Can you tell us about your days as a Navy SEAL and Green Beret?  Wink Cheesy Grin
  
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Reply #64 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 12:46am
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Doug Williams wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:10pm:
Let's all remember what my prosecution was really all about – according to John R  Swartz, one of the polygraph examiner's from the CBP/IA, they came after me for "protesting the loudest and longest against the polygraph". I think the hatred that I seem to engender in the polygraph community stems from the fact that I am telling the truth and they are lying - as the old saying goes – "Above all else the devil hates to be mocked". And I have spent 40 years mocking these polygraph thugs and exposing their evil deeds so it is no wonder they want to destroy me. But the fact of the matter is: I'm right  and they are wrong.  But as Voltaire once said "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong".  So these polygraph thugs can manufacture a crime and bring me up on bogus charges and throw me in prison, but that still does not make them right and it still does not make me wrong.  Quickfix, you and your cohorts in the polygraph industry are evil, you are abusing hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and you will soon be exposed for what you are - traitors, frauds and charlatans.  And I feel certain that history will treat me much kinder than it does you.


Oh man, that is so true.

Speaking as a certified graduate of the Backster School of Lie Detection, a member of the American Polygraph Association since 2004, and an APA-credentialed PCSOT examiner, I agree in large part with Doug Williams.

The "test" is a farce. 

Sure, it "works" -- as a psychological billy club. But as a lie (or, more importantly, a truth, detector), the "test" is bogus.

If anyone out there has questions about the "test" -- or the powerhou$e indu$try behind it -- please call me at 603-801-5179.

Meanwhile, I am fully confident that Doug Williams will end up on the right side of history.

I predict that rabid polygraph apologists such as quickfix and pailryder will soon go the way of U.S. Confederate "heroes".
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Reply #65 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 12:50am
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Dan Mangan wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 12:46am:
Doug Williams wrote on Aug 30th, 2017 at 8:10pm:
Let's all remember what my prosecution was really all about – according to John R  Swartz, one of the polygraph examiner's from the CBP/IA, they came after me for "protesting the loudest and longest against the polygraph". I think the hatred that I seem to engender in the polygraph community stems from the fact that I am telling the truth and they are lying - as the old saying goes – "Above all else the devil hates to be mocked". And I have spent 40 years mocking these polygraph thugs and exposing their evil deeds so it is no wonder they want to destroy me. But the fact of the matter is: I'm right  and they are wrong.  But as Voltaire once said "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong".  So these polygraph thugs can manufacture a crime and bring me up on bogus charges and throw me in prison, but that still does not make them right and it still does not make me wrong.  Quickfix, you and your cohorts in the polygraph industry are evil, you are abusing hundreds of thousands of innocent people, and you will soon be exposed for what you are - traitors, frauds and charlatans.  And I feel certain that history will treat me much kinder than it does you.


Oh man, that is so true.

Speaking as a certified graduate of the Backster School of Lie Detection, a member of the American Polygraph Association since 2004, and an APA-credentialed PCSOT examiner, I agree in large part with Doug Williams.

The "test" is a farce. 

Sure, it "works" -- as a psychological billy club. But as a lie (or, more importantly, a truth, detector), the "test" is bogus.

If anyone out there has questions about the "test" -- or the powerhou$e indu$try behind it -- please all me at 603-801-5179.

Meanwhile, I am fully confident that Doug Williams will end up on the right side of history.

I predict that rabid polygraph apologists such as quickfix and pailryder will soon go the way of U.S. Confederate "heroes".


Well said Dan – thank you very much. 
  

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Reply #66 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 1:53am
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No, Doug. Thank YOU for so vehemently exposing the truth about the "test" --  and the polygraph cult.
  
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Reply #67 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 11:48am
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Dan Mangan wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 1:53am:
No, Doug. Thank YOU for so vehemently exposing the truth about the "test" --  and the polygraph cult.


                                                Cool
  

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Reply #68 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 7:12pm
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OK, now I have to throw down the bull shit card.   https://antipolygraph.org/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/grin.gif  Quickfix, you have previously identified yourself as an employee of the Federal Government and you have offered information regarding Federal policy.  This means everything you post on this site is on behalf of the Federal government.  You may not be able to comprehend this, but it doesn't matter whether you post from your computer at work or from your home computer.  If your identity and the content of posts like the above ever came under public scrutiny you would be fired so fast they wouldn't let the door hit you in the ass. 

Now I really have to question if you are who you say you are.  I'm beginning to think you might be a 40 year old Walter Mitty loser who lives in his mother's basement and plays on the computer all day.  Is this what is really going on ?  Can you tell us about your days as a Navy SEAL and Green Beret?


Please put the bullshit card away as I am allergic to bullshit.  Rest assured I am a federal employee, and rest assured my boss knows what I post, his boss knows what I post, and his boss' boss knows what I post.  As long as I speak for myself, and it doesn't interfere with my work, they encourage me to post as I like, from work or from the comfort of my home.  And I was never a Navy Seal, Green Beret, or Delta Force, nor have I ever professed to be.  Anything I post regarding federal policy is quoted from the federal policy, regulation, or directive.  I will continue to mock antipolygraph fools like you, John M., and the mentally ill Xenonman as well as the ex-con, ex-inmate, convicted felon, convicted criminal Dougy cockroach Williams.  And quite frankly, I couldn't give 2 shits what the public thinks.

Oh, and BTW, my general counsel also knows what I post, and has advised me that I have the same First Amendment rights as you.
  
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Reply #69 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 7:41pm
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Wandersmann wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 12:36am:
OK, now I have to throw down the bull shit card.   https://antipolygraph.org/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/grin.gif  Quickfix, you have previously identified yourself as an employee of the Federal Government and you have offered information regarding Federal policy.  This means everything you post on this site is on behalf of the Federal government.  You may not be able to comprehend this, but it doesn't matter whether you post from your computer at work or from your home computer.  If your identity and the content of posts like the above ever came under public scrutiny you would be fired so fast they wouldn't let the door hit you in the ass. 

Now I really have to question if you are who you say you are.  I'm beginning to think you might be a 40 year old Walter Mitty loser who lives in his mother's basement and plays on the computer all day.  Is this what is really going on ?  Can you tell us about your days as a Navy SEAL and Green Beret?


Please put the bullshit card away as I am allergic to bullshit.  Rest assured I am a federal employee, and rest assured my boss knows what I post, his boss knows what I post, and his boss' boss knows what I post.  As long as I speak for myself, and it doesn't interfere with my work, they encourage me to post as I like, from work or from the comfort of my home.  And I was never a Navy Seal, Green Beret, or Delta Force, nor have I ever professed to be.  Anything I post regarding federal policy is quoted from the federal policy, regulation, or directive.  I will continue to mock antipolygraph fools like you, John M., and the mentally ill Xenonman as well as the ex-con, ex-inmate, convicted felon, convicted criminal Dougy cockroach Williams.  And quite frankly, I couldn't give 2 shits what the public thinks.

Oh, and BTW, my general counsel also knows what I post, and has advised me that I have the same First Amendment rights as you.


I welcome Quickfix to continue his ranting and raving . He is the perfect example of the caliber of people the government employs as polygraph operators. And he is a great spokesman for the dysfunctional polygraph industry because he is one of those people who is so stupid he doesn't even know he's stupid. 

In all fairness though, may be that he actually believes the polygraph is a lie detector.  But try as he might, he cannot present a cogent argument that will convince anyone that the polygraph is accurate and reliable as a lie detector.  Because of his ignorance and his inability to present a rational argument in support of his belief that the polygraph is actually a lie detector, he resorts to ad hominem attacks which is the last refuge of a scoundrel who has no facts upon which to base his misguided belief and support his argument.

Now, I realize I'm giving Quickfix a break by excusing his actions as being a result of ignorance on his part.  And I might be wrong, he may actually be an evil person who knows damn well the polygraph doesn't work but he continues to use it because it enriches him and gives him power.

Care to enlighten us Quickfix?  Are you evil or just plain stupid?
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Reply #70 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 8:18pm
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Doug Williams wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 7:41pm:
Care to enlighten us Quickfix?  Are you evil or just plain stupid?

Let's see:  I never committed a felony;  you did.  I was never incarcerated, you were.  I never peddled garbage on Amazon.com for 99 cents;  you did.

Sounds to me like you're the stupid one.
  
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Reply #71 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 9:16pm
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quickfix wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 8:18pm:
Doug Williams wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 7:41pm:
Care to enlighten us Quickfix?  Are you evil or just plain stupid?

Let's see:  I never committed a felony;  you did.  I was never incarcerated, you were.  I never peddled garbage on Amazon.com for 99 cents;  you did.

Sounds to me like you're the stupid one.


OK, as Forrest Gump once said, "Stupid is as stupid does". So let me ask you again Quickfix, do you really honestly believe the polygraph is accurate and reliable as a lie detector? If so, you are stupid! If, on the other hand, you know damn well the polygraph is not accurate or reliable as a lie detector and you continue to claim that it is - then you are evil. So which is it? Are you stupid or are you evil?
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Rest assured I am a federal employee, and rest assured my boss knows what I post, his boss knows what I post, and his boss' boss knows what I post. ...they encourage me to post as I like, from work or from the comfort of my home
...my general counsel also knows what I post, and has advised me that I have the same First Amendment rights as you.

This post constitutes testimony that your bosses and your department encourage you to speak for the federal government. 

Your general counsel is wrong, or your interpretation of his advice is wrong: your speech as a government representative is severely restricted, as opposed to your speech in the expression of your personal convictions. The First Amendment protects American citizens from their government; it does not protect the government in any apotheosis. 

If you had simply indicated that your boss, and his boss, and his boss' boss neither know nor care what you post, and if you had reported that your general counsel knows that you never claim the weight of the federal government behind your opinions, you would be in the clear. 

As it is, your revelation that you post from your workplace, with the full knowledge and encouragement of your superiors and the support of your general counsel, has incriminated you and your entire chain of command. 

All the abuse and profanity that you have spewed here, your glee at the conviction of Doug Williams, and your rabid ad hominem attacks on the other posters are now, thanks to the above-quoted testimony, the official position of the federal government. 
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Reply #73 - Aug 31st, 2017 at 10:39pm
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Aunty Agony wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 9:41pm:
quickfix wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 7:12pm:
Rest assured I am a federal employee, and rest assured my boss knows what I post, his boss knows what I post, and his boss' boss knows what I post. ...they encourage me to post as I like, from work or from the comfort of my home
...my general counsel also knows what I post, and has advised me that I have the same First Amendment rights as you.

This post constitutes testimony that your bosses and your department encourage you to speak for the federal government. 

Your general counsel is wrong, or your interpretation of his advice is wrong: your speech as a government representative is severely restricted, as opposed to the your speech in the expression of your personal convictions. The First Amendment protects American citizens from their government; it does not protect the government in any apotheosis. 

If you had simply indicated that your boss, and his boss, and his boss' boss neither know nor care what you post, and if you had reported that your general counsel knows that you never claim the weight of the federal government behind your opinions, you would be in the clear. 

As it is, your revelation that you post from your workplace, with the full knowledge and encouragement of your superiors and the support of your general counsel, has incriminated you and your entire chain of command. 

All the abuse and profanity that you have spewed here, your glee at the conviction of Doug Williams, and your rabid ad hominem attacks on the other posters are now, thanks to the above-quoted testimony, the official position of the federal government. 


Way to go Aunty agony – call this thug out and make him accountable for his actions and his words.
  

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Aunty Agony wrote on Aug 31st, 2017 at 9:41pm:
All the abuse and profanity that you have spewed here, your glee at the conviction of Doug Williams, and your rabid ad hominem attacks on the other posters are now, thanks to the above-quoted testimony, the official position of the federal government.


Aunty, you are the best !  And thank you Quickfix for making it clear that you act as a U.S. Government spokesperson.  I think you might want to check with the DOJ, however.  They might take umbrage with your sentiment that Federal prisoners should be "butt crappity smacked" in their facilities.  I doubt you'll find that in their mission statement.  Although you may have an idiot General Counsel who barely made it through law school and isn't good enough to work in the private sector, I highly doubt that he or she would approve of your inappropriate language.  I do believe, however, if such language were to be tolerated anywhere in the U.S. Government, polygraph units would definitely be the first choice.  Maybe someday your boss will have an opportunity to attempt to justify such language before Congressman Trey Gowdy and his committee.  You won't be there because you'd be fired long before and working in a car wash.   Oh well.  I'll still buy you that Heineken if I ever get the chance.   Grin Cheesy Wink
  
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