Mary,

Don't subject your son to a lie detector "test." Polygraphy is a pseudoscientific fraud. Polygraph chart readings are evidence of nothing, and it is quite common for truthful people to "fail."

Polygraph operators are bottom feeders running a scam. Steer clear of them all. It doesn't matter whether or not they are members of a polygraph association. These associations exist to protect their members, not the public.

See our book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, for more on why you shouldn't trust any polygraph operator:

https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

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Mary, were you a perfect child at 10? All kids lie and steal at some point in their lives. It's calling growing up. Stop making issues out of normalcy otherwise the universe will give you something legitimate to worry about.

Mary,
Forgive me, but the absurdity of this makes it hard to give a measured response. Now that you provided slightly more facts, I see that the Principal is the one who should be tarred and feathered. Has the school system finally gone over the deep end?

My previous post, though somewhat lacking in tact, was sound advice. Any legal action, in my opinion, should have the goal of removing the Principal from his job.

Dear Ark:

Thanks.  This principal is also doing the same thing to three other kids.  He came from Texas and a very arrogant and vulgar individual.   

The lawyer that myself and two other parents are going to see today plan to go after him.   

Thanks for your response as I did not get all of my facts right the first time.  I have MS and I have good days and bad days.
Thank George as well as I did try and download that book but my system time out. 

Ex Member wrote on May 31^st, 2017 at 5:28pm:


You of all people should know my efforts to have us police our own.  In fact my pleas for the industry to' reasonably, police our own; and the warnings of the consequences of not doing so, have left me blacklisted, ostracized, and near bankruptcy. 

I actually stand up for better policing in the industry, and I pay an actual price for it every day.  With all due respect, until you live a month of my hell I am forced to suffer for "the right thing." 

Do not preach to me about this industry and its need for responsible policing from within.  Not a single person on the message board knows what I have been though, in the name of the "right thing" and how often frankly I regret it.

It will be 10 years in August of this year, that I will have been around.   In the beginning of 2008, will be the 10 year anniversary of me becoming the most honest and hated polygraph examiner in all the world.  

Do you know how I survived this long?  Because I had to be better than everyone else, just to scrape by.  I had to care about my examines and my vocation, more than anyone else.  I had to put 110% into EVERY TEST, even when I was exhausted of putting my face into the raping machine that is the Texas Polygraph Industry.  

Every time these people had someone make a bogus call, or send a bogus email, to get me to bite to do something unethical for money, as much as I needed that money, my integrity always meant more.  

I have gotten phone calls to test the 10 year old kid, many times; I get about 2 or 3 of them a year.  I am never sure if its one of these ass clowns down here or if it is for real.  In any case, I tell them the same thing I told Mary.  I am not shy about telling them what I think anything, that would undermine my integrity; and each and every time the conversation ends with the phrase, "GO crappity smack YOURSELF."

What I left here on this thread was kind compared to what was there last night.

You bring up TV and the movies.  I'm sorry to be so blunt, but if you believe what you see on TV and the movies, then you deserve to be hit upside the head with a tac hammer; because clearly Darwin dropped the ball and missed that person entirely.  

If she is stupid enough to believe what she sees on TV and the movies, then I have a 7 course roadrunner meal waiting for her in my office.  It was prepared by a coyote that professes himself to be a, "Super Genius."

Moreover show me one movie or TV show that shows any realistic interoperation of a 10 year old child taking a polygraph examination.  Go ahead, I'll wait.

I am not a fan of the word, retard, but, anyone who would think that polygraph is appropriate for a 10 year old child, is more fitting of that title than any mentally disabled person I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.  In fact, most mentally disabled people that some people would refer to as "retards" are Rhodes Scholars compared to anyone that would think it be a good idea to give a 10 year old child a polygraph examination.  

Lastly, let me tell you EXACTLY where she lost 150% credibility in my mind.

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What the crappity smack does that have to do with anything?  

What does being, Arab, have anything to do with if someone is a good examiner, or a good person?  She lost all credibility in my mind, boom, right there. 

Personally, she owes Mike an apology for the passive aggressive racist implication, in my opinion.  

Having said that, we only know what she told us was said.  

Now I am going to do something I have NEVER done before on this message board, so brace for impact; this will likely never happen again.  I am going to give the benefit of the doubt to the examiners in question; that they may not have been told all the details of the case.  I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt, to the examiners in question, that reading it here, was the first time they became aware that the subject may have been a 10 year old child.  

Wow, I can't believe I just typed those words.  That is the first time, that the benefit of the doubt, wasn't to the complaining party first.  The first time in 10 years.  

Now, having said that, if what she said is true, ANY examiner willing to administer a 10 year old child a polygraph examination, barring a court order, should be brought up before an ethics committee and disciplined.  

Any principal that thinks a polygraph examination is appropriate for a child, should never work in any school ever again and should have every disciplinary case he or she has been involved in reviewed.  

Any parent that would entertain the idea of a 10 year old child being polygraphed, should be sterilized; so as to avoid the further dumbing down of the collective gene pool.  I stand by my opinion.

Anyone who would even entertain the idea, should be ashamed of themselves.  

Joe McCarthy wrote on May 31^st, 2017 at 9:14pm:


Are you going to exhibit the same zeal toward this end as your diatribe against Mary? You have their names, find out if the allegations are true and if so, get the ball rolling.

Joe McCarthy wrote on May 31^st, 2017 at 9:14pm:


ROTFLMAO!

Let's see how honest you are, Joe...

Scientifically speaking, how accurate is the polygraph "test"?