Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 ... 11 12 [13] 14 15  ReplyAdd Poll Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke (Read 107243 times)
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Dan Mangan
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 652
Joined: Jul 31st, 2014
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #180 - Feb 26th, 2016 at 10:25pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Thanks just the same, but I'm not interested.

By the way, chart interpretations alone are a false form of quality assurance. 

The entire video must be reviewed, among a number of other things.



  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Dan Mangan
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 652
Joined: Jul 31st, 2014
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #181 - Feb 26th, 2016 at 10:31pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
I would never allow charts to be reviewed by anyone who is not a certified graduate of an accredited polygraph school.
« Last Edit: Feb 26th, 2016 at 11:18pm by Dan Mangan »  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Ex Member
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 710
Joined: Dec 9th, 2012
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #182 - Feb 26th, 2016 at 10:34pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Dan to be real with you, asking someone like me if I have been to polygraph school is like asking a commander of the space shuttle if he has a private pilots license. Without empirical data, all you will be is argumentative noise emanating from the bully pulpit. Good luck.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Dan Mangan
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 652
Joined: Jul 31st, 2014
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #183 - Feb 26th, 2016 at 10:49pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Okay, Commander.

I'll have to take your word for it.

As for a winning communications strategy, we'll be using something new to the polygraph indu$try: victim impact statements.
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Ex Member
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 710
Joined: Dec 9th, 2012
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #184 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 12:12am
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Dan Mangan wrote on Feb 26th, 2016 at 10:49pm:
victim impact statements.

You are in the right place for that; they are manifold here in AP.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Dan Mangan
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 652
Joined: Jul 31st, 2014
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #185 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 1:50pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Ark, when interpreting polygraph charts, how much weight do you give to EDA complexity?
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Ex Member
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 710
Joined: Dec 9th, 2012
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #186 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 4:57pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Not much, although it is one of two secondary features, duration tends to be more diagnostic.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box George W. Maschke
Global Moderator
*****
Offline


Make-believe science yields
make-believe security.

Posts: 6230
Joined: Sep 29th, 2000
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #187 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 6:01pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Ex Member wrote on Feb 27th, 2016 at 4:57pm:
Not much, although it is one of two secondary features, duration tends to be more diagnostic.


None of the physiological indices measured by the polygraph are "diagnostic" with respect to deception.
  

George W. Maschke
I am generally available in the chat room from 3 AM to 3 PM Eastern time.
Tel/SMS: 1-202-810-2105 (Please use Signal Private Messenger or WhatsApp to text or call.)
E-mail/iMessage/FaceTime: antipolygraph.org@protonmail.com
Wire: @ap_org
Threema: A4PYDD5S
Personal Statement: "Too Hot of a Potato"
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Ex Member
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 710
Joined: Dec 9th, 2012
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #188 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 6:05pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
I agree George. It is only an indication of sympathetic arousal. Dan is just probing because he is bewildered that someone like me would know more than those who teach the polygraph schools.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Dan Mangan
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 652
Joined: Jul 31st, 2014
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #189 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 6:51pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Commander, I'm not bewildered in the least. Bemused, certainly, but not bewildered. Polygraph is seductive, and attracts all types.
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Ex Member
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 710
Joined: Dec 9th, 2012
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #190 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 7:14pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Dan, If you want to effectively challenge me, you'll have to rise above the 320 hour barber school.

Here's one for you:

What is the value added in determining if your examinee is a beta or an alpha responder?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Dan Mangan
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 652
Joined: Jul 31st, 2014
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #191 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 9:00pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
The value-add proposition in determining the alpha/beta responder issue manifests itself primarily in the interpretation of the cardio channel, of course.
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Ex Member
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 710
Joined: Dec 9th, 2012
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #192 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 9:40pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
All manifestations are not of value. I was hoping for more elaboration on its utility to ascertain whether an arousal was precipitated by a genuine OR or from the Startle Response. I suggest you spend less time in vitriol and more in expanding your knowledge base. You will need it once assuming the bully pulpit.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Ex Member
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 710
Joined: Dec 9th, 2012
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #193 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 9:44pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
I am flying out on a transcontinental flight today. My posting will be spotty. Peace.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Paste Member Name in Quick Reply Box Dan Mangan
God Member
*****
Offline



Posts: 652
Joined: Jul 31st, 2014
Re: American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke
Reply #194 - Feb 27th, 2016 at 11:22pm
Mark & QuoteQuote Print Post  
Thanks Ark, but showcasing a command of the theoretical effluvia that comprises the bullshit that is colloquially known as "polygraph science" is by no means a pivotal factor in the ideological insurgency that will fundamentally transform both the polygraph indu$try and the APA.

Safe travels.
  
Back to top
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 ... 11 12 [13] 14 15 
ReplyAdd Poll Send TopicPrint
American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke

Please type the characters that appear in the image. The characters must be typed in the same order, and they are case-sensitive.
Open Preview Preview

You can resize the textbox by dragging the right or bottom border.
Insert Hyperlink Insert FTP Link Insert Image Insert E-mail Insert Media Insert Table Insert Table Row Insert Table Column Insert Horizontal Rule Insert Teletype Insert Code Insert Quote Edited Superscript Subscript Insert List /me - my name Insert Marquee Insert Timestamp No Parse
Bold Italicized Underline Insert Strikethrough Highlight
                       
Change Text Color
Insert Preformatted Text Left Align Centered Right Align
resize_wb
resize_hb







Max 200000 characters. Remaining characters:
Text size: pt
More Smilies
View All Smilies
Collapse additional features Collapse/Expand additional features Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Angry Sad Shocked Cool Huh Roll Eyes Tongue Embarrassed Lips Sealed Undecided Kiss Cry
Attachments More Attachments Allowed file types: txt doc docx ics psd pdf bmp jpe jpg jpeg gif png swf zip rar tar gz 7z odt ods mp3 mp4 wav avi mov 3gp html maff pgp gpg
Maximum Attachment size: 500000 KB
Attachment 1:
X