Criminalize the teaching or learning of polygraph countermeasures? I'd love to see a draft of the proposed law. It seems quite obvious, that the government doesn't have any new technical advancement ideas on how to improve 100+year polygraph-type antiquated technology, to allow the Office of Technology Assessment (OTA) to conduct a re-evaluation that shows a dramatic improvement in reliability and accuracy. Hence, because the polygraph has not improved at all in that last 100+ years and there are no available advancement in technology to even consider beginning development on specific countermeasure tools and applications, then I guess the government just decided, let's draft a law that criminalizes the mere practice of trying to beat a system that doesn't provide definitive enough results to tell a lie from the truth.! LOL!!

Maybe we should just go back to the Chinese way of putting handfuls of rice in people's mouths.

Trying to make an example by prosecuting a little league coach will eventually backfire on them. The Genie is out of the bottle, there is no turning back.

pailryder wrote on Aug 18^th, 2013 at 7:32pm:

Even more demonstrative of my point; they are going after an amateur, who was able to be scared into a plea bargain. Steam rolling over an ant will have little effect on the eventual outcome.

I sincerely hope the Feds do not make any attempt to prosecute Doug Williams.

However, if the Department of Justice is stupid enough to indict Doug, I hope he, or someone, has the deep pockets required in order to mount a credible defense. 

According to a recent Fox News article, Doug Williams has been ARRESTED!

The article says both Doug Williams, and another anti-polygraph advocate Chad Dixon, both "agreed to meet with clients for a fee who they thought were connected to drug trafficking or were correction officers who had received sexual favors from an underage girl. But the potential polygraph students were really undercover agents".

Is this true Doug?  Did they arrest you?  When and where did this happen?  Are these allegations true?  

This government is getting out of control!  Polygraphs don't work.  Learning about polygraphs and countermeasures is as much of a crime as learning about magic and how the tricks work.  I know how magic tricks are done.  So does that mean when the government starts using magic and deception in some "interests of national security", that I'll be a criminal?  This has got to stop!

I would like for Doug Williams, George Maschke, and others to have a big national television show where they expose every detail about the government polygraphs and how they work.  Show everyone how to beat them.  Make polygraphers cry because they can't get any confessions out of any  more subjects and there whole "magic show is ruined".  The whole USA will be educated on how to beat the machine, and more and more people will beat the CIA, FBI, NSA, Border Patrol, etc. polygraphs.  Make it useless.  Put polygraphers out of a job.

Oh, by the way, I took polygraphs and I'll tell you the best countermeasures is the mental thoughts one.  Breathing changes may be detected with the tubes around your chest, and tongue biting may be seen if you screw it up.  Best bet is to use mental thoughts.  Nobody, and no machine, can read your mind.  Never have, never will.

Marisa Taylor's recent article about Operation Lie Busters has been receiving a lot of attention, including this Techdirt article (which has also been posted to Reddit, where it has generated considerable commentary):

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130820/00514824248/federal-official-declares-...

Now, the title is sensationalistic. The head of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection polygraph unit, John Schwartz, didn't suggest that "anyone" who speaks out against lie detector tests should be criminally investigated. But his remark at the American Association of Police Polygraphists' annual seminar on 3 June of this year that those who "protest the loudest and the longest are the ones that I believe we need to focus our attention on" suggests that Operation Lie Busters' targets were selected (and entrapped) in retaliation for their criticism of polygraphy.

I think that Schwartz's remark will be of value to the defense in any additional criminal cases that may stem from Operation Lie Busters.

George W. Maschke wrote on Sep 1^st, 2013 at 7:04am:


KUDOS to you George!  Now, I challenge everyone who downloaded George's book to donate at least one dollar!