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Reply #75 - May 24th, 2018 at 5:13pm
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Reply #76 - May 23rd, 2018 at 4:35pm
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George W. Maschke wrote on May 19th, 2018 at 9:42am:
Annette,

Thank you for sharing your experience with the CIA polygraph. I would be interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, approximately how long ago this was? For example, was it this year, last year, about five years ago?


I can tell you for CERTAINTY that this line of questioning has not been asked since the 90's, and even then it was tame and related to homosexuality. This is either a lie, or she took the test back in the 80's.
  
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Reply #77 - May 29th, 2018 at 5:10pm
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George/Admin,

I will admit that I am a long time viewer and poster on this site, thought I post under various IP addresses and screen names.  As you can see from your backend, I am posting through Tor.  This is not the first time you have suspected that the same person was chatting with themselves.  You suspected the same thing in this thread a few months ago:

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1521435155/8#8

Maybe the posters are actually different people.  I have used Tor and other anonymous proxies before and somehow ended up with the same IP address as someone else.  Shit happens.  Give the posters a break.  They are not trolling.  They are sharing their polygraph experiences.  The fact is, we have run out of IPv4 addresses, so duplicates will happen.

https://www.wired.com/2015/09/north-america-just-ran-old-school-internet-address...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-internet-has-run-out-of-ip-addresses-sort-of-ip...

  
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Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
Reply #78 - May 29th, 2018 at 5:30pm
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beat_the_system wrote on May 29th, 2018 at 5:10pm:
Give the posters a break.


Um, no. Sock puppetry violates AntiPolygraph.org's posting policy and will be exposed whenever possible. In the present example and the other to which you refer, we had extremely high levels of confidence that posts purporting to be from multiple authors were, in fact, the handiwork of a single individual.
  

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Reply #79 - May 30th, 2018 at 1:07am
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Correction, I did not use Tor on my last post, I am using another anonymous proxy browser service.  But George, you were wrong.  In the previous posts that I linked to, one of the postings was mines under a different moniker, and the other person posting was not me.  We were both using Tor apparently and I don't know how we got the same IP.  Did you check the browser type and version, MAC address, and other unique identifiers?   

To add to this thread, I hear the CIA process has not changed much since the original posting.  Still located at Dulles Discovery, same polygraph machine and routine, still trying to make people admit to disqualifying stuff.  I know a few people who got hired and thanks to this site, they were able to cheat and beat the poly and hide their dirty deeds from CIA.  The beat-the-poly message is getting through to people!
  
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Reply #80 - May 30th, 2018 at 1:54am
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beat_the_system,

Let's get real.

You are not only a troll, but you are a most awkward and clumsy troll.

Prove me wrong.

Call me at 603-801-5179 and we'll talk about it.

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Reply #81 - May 30th, 2018 at 10:05am
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Awkward and clumsy?  I doubt it.  I use various anonymous proxies and IP addresses.  But I know that it is just a minor layer of security that anyone with enough time on their hands can break through, if they cared to.  I use Tor sometimes, but this site sometimes loads real slow on Tor for me now probably because of this country's slow internet.  I do not live in the U.S. so even if my real "home" IP address and location was discovered, it means nothing to me.  We know who you are Dan, your phone number and mugshot are all over the internet.  I do not care to call you.  I will proudly say that not only am I with the anti-polygraph movement, I am also NOT a patriot with no loyalty to the U.S., so if I reveal national security secrets that I have obtained I don't give a fuck.  I am loyal to my family, true friends, and whoever is paying my salary.  That is all.  Props to Snowden, Wikileaks, Anonymous, and anyone else exposing government secrets.
  
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Reply #82 - Oct 31st, 2018 at 3:32pm
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A user named Someguy0 on the federalsoup.com forum was recently banned and had his posts removed for posting the latest FBI polygraph questions.  I was able to find the Google cache of the page, which used to be at https://forum.federalsoup.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=901948, and here is a copy and paste of Someguy0's deleted post:


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As we all know or can find out from a Google search, the CIA conducts their pre-employment processing and interviews at the Dulles Discovery Building - 13800 Air & Space Museum Pkwy, Chantilly VA. Here are the questions you may be asked, which as been verified by many applicants:

The polygraph has two sets of questions, counterintelligence and lifestyle. In addition, there is a stupid pretest, a post test interrogations, and a repeat of questions. It will take about 4 hours total.

Some of the "irrelevant" questions, where you should answer with a calm yes, are questions like:
- Is today Monday?
- Are we in virginia?
- Is your name XXX?
- Are you sitting down?


The counterintelligence questions are broad enough to cover everything, so they are something like:
- Do you have any financial stakes or property in a foreign country?
- Have you ever plotted to overthrow the US government?
- Have you ever had contact with a foreign agency?


The lifestyle questions are also broad and may be something like:
- Have you discussed the hiring process with anyone, either in person or online?
- Have you ever committed a crime for which you weren’t caught?
- Have you used illegal drugs that you have not told us about?
- Did you intentionally falsify info on your application or security paperwork?


During the pre-test, if you admit to anything in these counterintelligence or lifestyle areas, you will be drilled in that area. If you spike the charts during the actual test in any of these areas, you will be drilled during the post-test interrogation.

The trick is, expect to be accused of lying, interrogated, and being told you are hiding something. Do not tell them anything, make no admissions. If you choose to use countermeasures, use the mental countermeasures described on the website Antipolygraph.org in the book The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. Do not try the breathing or biting countermeasures, they can be detected if you do them wrong.

Yes, I am exposing information here. Enjoy!
  
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Reply #83 - Nov 1st, 2018 at 11:20am
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How long must those who have simply applied for a job with the federal government (or applied for a position with the local police department) endure the preemployment polygraph screening test. This is an absurd procedure that is based on a faulty scientific premise – in fact it is pure pseudo science – and the government knows very well the test can be manipulated very easily so as to allow a liar to produce a perfect truthful chart regardless of whether he or she is lying or not. The government admitted this when they prosecuted me for teaching people how to do just that. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fHkCFxgQQ&feature=youtu.be
  

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Reply #84 - Apr 3rd, 2019 at 4:27pm
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Interesting blog I found:
https://bannedfromintel.wordpress.com/
  
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Reply #85 - May 26th, 2019 at 9:38am
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Hello everyone.  I would like to introduce myself.  My name is Byron Johns and the link in the above post from user anotherpolygraphvictim is my blog.  I have had quite a bit of traffic coming to my blog since I created it a few months ago.  Since I have gone public,  I decided to finally join this forum.  The stories posted in this thread are exactly what I went through with the CIA several times this past decade. 

The CIA put a permanent red flag (known as an "Incident Report) in my government file after accusing me of using countermeasures on their polygraph back in 2010 and subsequently denying my TS/SCI clearance and rejecting my application, therefore banning me for life.  Despite what anyone tells you, if you are rejected from an IC agency because of a "failed" polygraph, you are banned for life.  No point in reapplying because they will just reject you again. I was told by the CIA in 2017 that I would not be hired based on the 2010 incident. 

I was also rejected by the FBI in 2011, even though I passed their polygraph, because they figured if the CIA didn't want me, they should not either. I got notification that I was banned for life from the FBI in 2017.  I could not get my DOD clearance back to get another DOD job around the time of my first CIA and FBI rejections because of the CIA Incident Report.  The only reason I finally got into the Department of State (DOS)  Foreign Service is because DOS does not care about nor do polygraphs, and even when DOS requested my polygraph report details from CIA, the CIA told them "no", so DOS hired me.  I later resigned due to my opposition with the whole security clearance system.

I am 100% opposed to the polygraph and know from experience that it DOES NOT WORK.  The polygraph is just an interrogation tool used to extract confessions from unknown applicants that the polygrapher or background investigators would have never found out about.  I was able to pass the FBI polygraph with ease by simply not making any admissions and going in with an insouciant, languid, and nonchalant attitude.  I would like to help spread the message to the world on how not to succumb to the pressures and coercion of a polygraph.  My entire story is in my blog in my signature.  Enjoy!
  

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