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May 24th, 2018 at 5:06pm
 
The following posts in this thread, purporting to be from different individuals, were all posted from the same IP address to several message threads, and have been isolated here. This sort of deceptive practice is a violation of AntiPolygraph.org's posting policy.
  

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Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
Reply #1 - May 19th, 2018 at 6:06am
 
I really wanted to work for the CIA but I also knew that my chances were pretty slim. The physical examination was the most through I was ever subjected to. The doctor just told me what she wanted me to do and gave the results to an attendant who recorded them on a chart. I do remember having my blood pressure checked sitting in both arms,standing in left arm and prone in the right arm. The doctor checked my breasts and then did a internal exam. This was most unpleasant. After doing that,she left the room and the assistant told me I could get dressed. No mention was made as to my passing the physical and I didn't ask.  That afternoon I was given my first polygraph. The examiner was a woman who went right to the point. She explained that the machine was very advanced and could detect any form of deception. I was then asked if I had ever been polygraphed before. She said the whole purpose of the examination was to determine the truth. She then proceeded to attach a rubber tube above my breasts and one around my stomach. A cardiocuff was wrapped around my upper left arm. I started to feel apprehensive and had some palpations but I managed to calm myself. Skin sensers were attached to two fingers on my left hand and one larger one that covered about a third of my middle finger on my right hand. I should mention that there was a pad on the chair that I sat on and another where my feet rested(I had been asked to remove my high heels). I learned later that these devices and ones built into the arms of the chair detected even the slightest of movement. The examiner sat behind and to right of me. After I was hooked up to the machine, she again urged me to tell the truth. I was to answer all questions truthfully and quickly with a yes or no. I was instructed to sit perfectly still and keep my feet flat on the floor. She then said "I'm going to inflate the cuff." I felt the pressure of it instantly but it wasn't as tight as when your blood pressure is being checked. More than a minute went by before the first question. I assume she was getting a baseline reading. I felt rather calm. She went after me right away. The first question, "Is your middle name Ashley?" (yes) was followed by "Did you graduate from college?" (yes)  Are you now or have you ever been in a relationship with another woman?" (no). Do you wear corrective lenses?" (yes)  "Do you practice masturbation?" (yes). "Did your steal from your mother's purse when you were young?" (no). "Did you steal from your last employer?" (no).  "Did you ever have a relationship with a married man?" (no).  "Are you 26 years of age?" (yes). "In you last relationship with a male did you have oral or anal sex?" (no). "Did you answer all the questions for your medical history truthfully?" (yes). "Are you taking any medications for your heart or blood pressure?". (no) "Is your mother's name Stephanie?". (yes)  This dual went on for over forty five minutes. She stopped the examination, deflated the cuff and left the room. I sat completely still. I knew she was watching me through a mirror or on camera. When she returned, she stressed the need to tell the truth. "Its important that you answer all questions truthfully." This is where they attempt to pry information out of you. They want to give you the feeling they know you are "lying"  Actually, I was telling the truth!  She inflated the cuff and off we went for round two.The last question in this session was this: "Your charts indicate some deception".  Does this surprise you?" (yes). With the test over, she unhooked from the machine and thanked me for taking the test. I slipped on my shoes and left.
  
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Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
Reply #2 - May 21st, 2018 at 4:09am
 
I was given my three polygraph examinations during the first two weeks of June 1993. First, I want to clarify some matters regarding the medical examination. When I reported for the physical, I was given a form to sign stating that I had not used any type of drug in the past month. The form also asked me to affirm that I would be supplying my own urine sample(this is rather odd because I was immediately taken to a dressing room when I was instructed to remove all of my clothing including underwear) I was then given a paper sleeveless gown than closed in the front. I then gave my urine sample. Another aspect of the exam was the internal check that was made on me. This is really not part(as I learned later) of a routine screening physical. But I did what I was told; slid down on the exam table and put my feet in the stirrups. The doctor said I had completed the physical examination and then left the room. I was not told, and I did not ask, about the results. The assistant told me I could get dressed. As I stated, It was the most time I had ever spent with a doctor for that type of examination. Taking a polygraph examination-let alone three- can be, and usually is, a stressful and apprehensive experience. The intensity of the event can stay with you for a long time and probably for the rest of you life. You just remember it. This is true of anyone who has gone through traumatic event(I don't consider my examinations "traumatic events"-I never had nightmares about the-but I think you get the point. Some things we remember better than others. As for the questions I was asked, well I had no control over those. I think we have to take into consideration the overall situation. I applied for a job with a very secret organization. Once I started the process, I told them if effect, you have complete control over me. Its not the case of what the law states about anything. The Agency can do what they please. And my polygraph examiner knew that. She had me in a position where she had total control. She could ask any type of question she wanted. Maybe she was a person just doing job. But in this job, where she has total control over you, there is a lot of room for abuse. Could she be getting some "thrill" over attaching me to the machine, asking offensive questions, and watching how I respond? Its possible she was given quite a bit of leeway as to how she would administer the examination. I would think that every polygraph examiner has they're own way of conducting the exam. I would like to mention the one question that really struck at my heart. She asked if I loved children. I answered yes. She then asked if I drove an American made car(yes). Was I staying in a hotel during the interviews.(yes) And then she asked: "Were you molested as a child or have you ever molested a child?"(NO) This examination wasn't as long as the first one. When she was finished with her questioning, she had me sit for a couple of minutes and then removed the pressure cuff, tubes and finger sensors. As with the others, I did have to sign and date the graph. She thanked me for submitting to the examination and I left. I will never forget the expressionless look on her face. Another day at the office. As it turned out, I was offered a position but turned it down. A little over a year later, I met and married a doctor and we had two daughters. But every time I have my blood pressure checked, I think back to those days, strapped to that machine, siting as still as I could and waiting for the next question. Sometimes a slight smile develops and at other times I have a sense of humiliation. I wonder where all that information on me is now stored and who has opportunity to read it? I was exactly what they were looking for and I turned them down. I wonder if that made them upset or angry?
  
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Re: Discarded Sockpuppet Postings
Reply #3 - May 24th, 2018 at 5:13pm
 
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Re: CIA Polygraph Exam
Reply #4 - May 21st, 2018 at 5:19pm
 
ptrcksu. I totally agree with your assessment of the average polygraph examiner. Six months ago I took a polygraph for a local government agency. Frankly, I have lived a rather uneventful life; been honest and played by the rules. So taking this test did not concern me. When I arrived at the testing location, the receptionist gave me a few forms to sign. I waited for about fifteen minutes and then she escorted me back to a small room where I met the examiner. This woman was in her mid forties and rather attractive. It was summer and she was wearing a dark, floral print jumper and a pair of black leather high heel pumps. A very nice figure for her age, too. A real head turner.  She thanked me for coming and explained the reason for the test was to obtain the truth. She told me that she had been in law enforcement for almost twenty years and had taken numerous polygraphs herself. "I passed all of them." she said because I always told the truth. She then proceeded to explain the workings of the polygraph, calling it a psychological physical exam. We then went over some of the general areas of questioning. She stated in a very somber tone that the machine was the latest technology and very sensitive to deception. I was then asked to slip off my shoes and sit in the examination chair. I lifted my arms above my head as she placed a pneuotube around my chest and another around my abdomen. Two sensors were attached to my left hand and one larger one to the middle finger of my right hand. Finally, a blood pressure cuff was wrapped around my left upper arm. She took her seat to the rear and right of me sitting by the machine and a computer screen. I was instructed to keep my feet flat on the sensor mats and to sit as still as possible. I was to answer all questions truthfully with a yes or no. Again she urged me to tell the truth. She then said "I'm going to inflate the cuff." I felt the pressure on my arm immediately. I sat for about a minute or so before she started the questions. She started with irrelevant and control questions mixing them so you could not pick up a pattern. I would say about fifteen minutes had passed (I'm only guessing at the time) when she stopped and told me she was troubled at what she was seeing on the chart. She asked me if I was telling the whole truth. I said that I was. She reminded me that the machine was very sensitive and could pick up deception. She started the exam again. After four or five questions, she again stopped. She asked me if I was trying to deceive her. I said no. She said she wanted to help me have a good polygraph but she could only do that if I told her about anything that was bothering me. She told me that telling the whole and complete truth would give me a clear conscience. "The truth cleanses us." she said. I tried to explain to her that I was telling the truth and I asked her to explain to me her reason for her doubts. She simply stated that the chart was troubling to her and if I did not reveal everything she would have to terminate the examination. If you have done something wrong in the past and tell the truth about it that's positive, she said. "I want to help you, I'm on you side." "Nothing would make me more happier than to write, pass, no deception indicated on your examination report."  I told her that I answered all the questions she asked truthfully. And that it was impossible for me to tell her anything more. She said she would give me another opportunity to answer a group of questions. But if she saw any deception she halt the exam. I agreed to this. She started with two irrelevant questions. Then: "Did you ever strike a woman?" "Did you steal when you were young?" "Did you ever lie to get someone in trouble?" "Are you now and have you been telling me the truth?" "Do you believe that this polygraph device can tell if you are being untruthful?" "Don't you realize that not telling me the truth is disrespectful to me?" "Is the truth important to you?"  "Do you affirm on this day that you have told me the whole and complete truth to the questions asked of you?" "Have you shown respect for this examination process and me by telling the truth today?" "Will you leave here today with a clear conscience and a heart and mind at peace?" This thing got way out of control. You can see the pressure placed upon you to say something or admit to something you didn't do. In a situation like this you can't win. It was a sham. After the last question she unhooked from the machine and again thanked me for coming in. I asked her if I passed and she said that would be determined later. She moved over to the door, opened it and wished me a nice day. Needless to say, I didn't get the job. And all because of an individual on a power trip. Can anyone give me some advice as how something like this could harm me in the future? That's the last polygraph I will ever take. But I can't get that woman out of mind.
  
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Re: CIA Polygraph Exam
Reply #5 - May 22nd, 2018 at 8:51pm
 
Roger. As I read your post I thought to my self that an almost identical thing happened to me except for a different and interesting twist.  I was getting the same complaint from my examiner. He stopped the testing twice stating he was not very happy about what he was seeing on the chart. He already knew that I had used pot in the past, had a DUI and had been charged and convicted of assault(this gal really got under my skin one night). I had no intention of trying to mislead him during the examination. My life had changed and I no longer hung around with that old crowd. When he asked me if I was trying to deceive him, I looked him straight in the eye and said, I have an eight month old girl at home and I swear(I raised my right hand) on her life that I have told you the truth."  He seemed to be taken back by this. He resumed the test for another ten minutes or so and then stopped. After I signed and dated the graph, he thanked me for my cooperation, shook my hand and wished me good luck.  I think the examiner you encountered had a serious ego problem. The provocative way she was dressed-black leather pumps-was certainly meant to distract you. And you may have been aroused by her. Was she being professional?  Who can say with these people. Would she have dressed the same way had she been polygraphing a woman? I would like to put her on the polygraph(she will have to take those heels off) and ask her a few of my questions. Roger, I can't say if your failing the test you took will hurt your future prospects for employment. I did pass my polygraph and got the job I wanted. As a matter of fact, I have been promoted since then. Please feel free to contact me.  Anita.
  
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Reply #6 - May 23rd, 2018 at 11:57pm
 
Sha.  I have a mild form of Tourette"s Syndrome and I assume you do also.  I took and passed a polygraph a little over seven months ago. The only reactions I had was when I arrived at the testing site.  I had to wait for about fifteen minutes and it was then that I experienced anxiety, shortness of breath and heart palpations. Using techniques that I had been taught I managed to calm myself. When I entered the examination room and saw the chair I would sit in and the polygraph machine my heart began to beat like a trip hammer. Once again, I was able to relax myself enough to lower my heart rate(at least I couldn't feel it pounding in my chest). I was on the machine for almost forty five minutes. The only thing that bothered me about the exam was that I felt that the blood pressure cuff was too tight. I can't say if you would able to take a polygraph. You would have to discuss that with a examiner.  Please keep talking to your husband. I can appreciate this is a difficult situation for you. I wish you and your husband the best.
  
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Re: Medical Conditions Affecting Polygraph.
Reply #7 - May 24th, 2018 at 12:23am
 
Afib.  I can't speak to your Afib, but I can assure you that your high blood pressure will not be a problem during the examination.  I have hypertension which I take medication for. I told my examiner I was taking this medication and she told me that having high blood pressure does not effect the exam. She explained that although she was going to wrap a blood pressure cuff on my arm she was not really going to measure it as was done clinically. What she would be looking for would be fluctuations in the pressure not an actual reading such as 110/70. Good luck.
  
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Reply #8 - May 24th, 2018 at 5:21pm
 
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