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Re: Failed poly but innocent!
Reply #15 - Aug 9th, 2011 at 1:20am
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If you talk to a local examiner who is listed in APA or AAPP then I would suspect you would get the truth from that examiner. Polygraph examiners have ego but want the truth. They are continuoisly seeking continued education and argue among themselves for the right way. This is a profession and they are professionals. The "hacks" are everywhere. I would blame this problem on your employer and not the examiner. It's too bad you are going through this. Your employer needs to be upfront and honest with the testing because you are not guilty until proven guilty. I have given many exams and passed the examinee. I have no problem explaining they passed. I make my questions fair and I fully expect to pass each examinee at evry test. When they fail; I make no qualms about their failure. If there are problems with the exam, I dissect them to see where the problem areas are. I belive in these exams and if a polygraph examiner is truly after the truth then they also make sure they are giving the proper exam with the proper questions. You know if you are innocent. Stay strong and make sure your employer followed the EPPA laws. No one should have to go through that and have an employer lie to the employee to get a truth test. Polygraphs are about the truth. Start to finish.
  
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Reply #16 - Oct 21st, 2011 at 3:28pm
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Hia my name is donna im 17 years old, last year there was money taken from my nans house , there wer a few people in the house that could have done it. i was never in my nanas room where she kept her money . eventually they paid for a lie detector test to be taken of all of the familly. everyone passed and i failed ?????? i dont know why i fail maybye i was nervous but that shouldnt count?? my mam and dad 100 percent know i didnt do it . i cant stop crying at the fact my own family think i roobed my nan and granda. my dad swore to them he would provbe me innocent and hes trying to save up money so i can get another one taken but we dont have the money right now. it could take upto a year before we can get the money together . im totally in despair and i dont know what to do please help me understand when i failed. its not fair on me or my nan and granda. im really close to all my familly i feel like ann outcast. its my birthday next week and i dont even think im allowed over there . i feel so lost please help me Sad:(Sad:(Sad
  
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Re: Failed poly but innocent!
Reply #17 - Oct 21st, 2011 at 7:44pm
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Donna,

It is not at all unusual for truthful people to wrongly fail the polygraph. You'll find statements from others who were falsely accused of deception (myself included) here:

https://antipolygraph.org/statements.shtml

Polygraph "testing" has no scientific basis, and the results should not be relied on for any purpose. Your family wasted its money on the lie detector, and it would be a mistake to throw good money after bad by taking yet another lie detector test.

Instead, I suggest that you educate your family about the unreliability of lie detector testing. You'll find a thorough debunking of it in our free book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, which you can download here:

https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

You may also wish to show them this CBS 60 Minutes investigative report on lie detector:

https://antipolygraph.org/blog/?p=110
  

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Reply #18 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 2:33pm
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George W. Maschke wrote on Oct 21st, 2011 at 7:44pm:
Donna,

It is not at all unusual for truthful people to wrongly fail the polygraph. You'll find statements from others who were falsely accused of deception (myself included) here:

https://antipolygraph.org/statements.shtml

Polygraph "testing" has no scientific basis, and the results should not be relied on for any purpose. Your family wasted its money on the lie detector, and it would be a mistake to throw good money after bad by taking yet another lie detector test.

Instead, I suggest that you educate your family about the unreliability of lie detector testing. You'll find a thorough debunking of it in our free book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, which you can download here:

https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

You may also wish to show them this CBS 60 Minutes investigative report on lie detector:

https://antipolygraph.org/blog/?p=110



Thanks for the reply i told my nan what you said and they still dont believe me ! i tryed to educate them and some familly members are open to this and others are not. is there any way that you could possibly speak to my nan and give her your perspective? i understand if you cant but i really need to get through to her mabye she might listen to you
  
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Re: Failed poly but innocent!
Reply #19 - Oct 31st, 2011 at 7:03pm
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Donna,

If your nan were to call me, I'd be happy to speak with her about polygraph matters. She can best reach me at +1 424 835 1225. If she has a computer, she can call this number free via the "call me" button on this page of my personal website. Alternatively, I can be reached via Skype or Google Talk (links in my signature block below).
  

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Reply #20 - Nov 4th, 2011 at 11:59am
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george thank you so much!! ill tell her to ring you!
  
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Reply #21 - Nov 12th, 2011 at 12:34pm
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Reply #22 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 5:46pm
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i have failed 2x polygraph test in a jewellery compnay relating to theft and im 100% innocent

i have nevwr stolen a cent in my life

please help ..... how is this possible
  
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Reply #23 - Oct 13th, 2017 at 6:09pm
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i have failed 2x polygraph test in a jewellery compnay relating to theft and im 100% innocent

i have nevwr stolen a cent in my life

please help ..... how is this possible


Unfortunately this happens all too often.  Thirty years ago, I proved the polygraph, when used as a "lie detector", is a sick joke.  On this episode of CBS 60 MINUTES, three different polygraph operators called 3 different innocent, truthful people liars on a crime that never even happened!  Check it out: https://youtu.be/ziMAoHhxiYQ
  

It is time to put a stop to this government sponsored sadism perpetrated by those who use this insidious Orwellian instrument of torture called the 'lie detector'!  Education is the most effective weapon I have to finally put a stop to the abusive practice of polygraph 'testing'.  Help me by educating yourself and others.  My book FROM COP TO CRUSADER: THE STORY OF MY FIGHT AGAINST THE DANGROUS MYTH OF "LIE DETECTION" is available on Amazon in e-book or paperback - please get this book and send it to as many people as you can - it literally destroys the myth of "lie detection"!  Doug Williams
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Re: Failed poly but innocent!
Reply #24 - Oct 14th, 2017 at 11:06am
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i have failed 2x polygraph test in a jewellery compnay relating to theft and im 100% innocent

i have nevwr stolen a cent in my life

please help ..... how is this possible


Wesley,

As Doug pointed out, what happened to you happens to many people. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with you. The problem is that polygraphy is a pseudoscientific fraud. The main polygraph techniques in use today were developed by interrogators, not scientists. In fact, the most widely used technique is the brainchild of a crackpot who thought plants can read human minds. It is quite common for truthful people to "fail" the "test," especially when they are wrongly suspected of a crime.
  

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Reply #25 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 4:57pm
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i have failed 2x polygraph test in a jewellery compnay relating to theft and im 100% innocent

i have nevwr stolen a cent in my life

please help ..... how is this possible


Why was an employee in the private sector being polygraphed at all?
  
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Reply #26 - Oct 15th, 2017 at 8:57pm
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i have failed 2x polygraph test in a jewellery compnay relating to theft and im 100% innocent

i have nevwr stolen a cent in my life

please help ..... how is this possible


Why was an employee in the private sector being polygraphed at all?


Good point.  I don't think a jewelry store can require employee to submit to polygraph.   I can tell you, however, that private sector employees can be polygraphed any time if they are required to possess a government security clearance while working on a government contract. 
  
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