In season 7, episode 6 (The Lie Detector part 1) of Pretend, a true crime documentary podcast, Javier Leiva interviews Doug Williams on topics ranging from his experience as a police polygraph operator, his 1979 decision to publicly come out against polygraphy, and how to pass or beat a polygraph “test.” They also discuss Operation Lie Busters, the federal sting operation that targeted Williams for entrapment.
This podcast also includes audio from the final undercover operation that preceded Williams’ arrest.
AntiPolygraph.org co-founder George Maschke was also interviewed for this podcast.