Aron Ra, Texas state director of American Atheists and host of the Ra-Men podcast spoke with AntiPolygraph.org co-founder George Maschke for the 44th episode of his Ra-Men podcast. Topics covered include the origins of AntiPolygraph.org, polygraphy’s lack of scientific underpinnings, why the U.S. government persists in its reliance on polygraphy, polygraph countermeasures, and Operation Lie Busters, which targeted polygraph countermeasure instructors for criminal prosecution.