List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph

[mr._olympia]

The state of Oregon and Montana do not use the polygraph.
The California dept. of Corrections the largest law enforcement agency in the world does not use it either.
The LAPD started using it about 5 years ago.
Anything other than that I do not know about.  The California Highway Patrol uses the voice stress analyzer.
I took a polygraph to become a Reserve Officer in Washington state, I failed it the first time and then took it again a year later with the same examiner for a different agency and passed it.
I even admitted more in the second test.
What a joke.

[Lord_Darkclaw]

"Even" admitted more?
shouldn't that simply read "I admitted more"?
maybe you passed because you DID admit.

I'm totally anti-polygraph but you've got to come up with a more convincing argument than that.

[triple x]

Darkclaw,

Mr._ Olympia fails to understand that the information he disclosed in the referenced polygraph was obviously within acceptable parameters IAW the LE agency policies in which he applied. Even the FBI accepts a small degree of drug use as long as it does not exceed the acceptable parameters as set forth.

triple x

[PentaFed]

As far as I know Rhode Island departments do not use the test either.

[2525]

Did you guys know that it's really scientifically possible to detect if a person has ever used (non-polar molecule, e.g. marijuana) drugs in their entire lives?  Simply obtain through liposuction a 50 gm sample of human fat, extract and concentrate it.  Then use readily available instrumentation to quantify and characterize.  Um, the missing fat cells may be rapidly replaced by consuming vast quantities of Dankin Donets.

So, it is not necessary for law enforcement to use unreliable polygraph testing to discern drug usage history.  Real science may be utilized.

[rice80]

Hey JB,

The US Border and Customs Patrol don't polygraph, Abuddy of mine just got hired last  year and he was never poly'd.

Rice

[Fly_boy]

California Dept. of Corrections does not Polly.  The DOD Police do not Poly.  I would think that most University Police do not Polly as well.  I think that the SDSherrif Dept. does polly but their limitations on drugs is not so bad.  Not sure about SD city police though.

[Fred F.]

Hi All,

I dug this up from an earlier post and it is still accuarte

You can try the CA Youth Authority, CA Dept. of Corrections, CA State Parole and many other state LE agencies except the CA Dept of Justice(they do poly), The LA Unified School District Police use the poly now, LA Airport Police and The Port of Los Angeles Police are agencies that do NOT poly.  

Another point to remember is that that you found this website and you can learn the truth and get educated. Consider applying to other agencies that use a poly, read The Lie Behind The Lie Detector and be ready to pass  

You can check the CA state personnel board site for state LE jobs //www.spb.ca.gov

Fred F.

[lawlizard]

Michigan is free of polygraphs, no department conducts them.

[nomegusto]

Border Patrol
ICE
CBP

Use Polygraph on a case by case basis for now. But expect them to implement it full time in the near future.

[Future CPA]

I am an undergraduate accounting student who would like to get a job with the federal or state government. My freshman year of college was a mess.  I used drugs for a while mostly pot and even sold mushrooms a few times.(bad decision)

I no longer use drugs of any kind.  I am not a dishonest person I have never stolen or cheated.  I understand the CIA would never take me but would I have a shot with the IRS?  Do they polygraph test?  How about the government of CA?

[Knightshaiid]

Departments that don't polygraph:

Washington, DC Metropolitan Police (NOT to be confused with Washington Area Metro Transit Authority who use CVSA)

US Park Police

TSA Federal Air Marshal Service

[BBernie]

Departments that don't polygraph:

Washington, DC Metropolitan Police (NOT to be confused with Washington Area Metro Transit Authority who use CVSA)

US Park Police

TSA Federal Air Marshal Service

I have a question because I am confused about all of this.  The TSA is a federal law enforcement agency ... I thought all federal law enforcement agencies were required to utilize the polygraph to determine truthfulness, honesty and integrity.  But if that is not the case, then why is there disparity and lack on continuity within the federal government for using this tool?  It would seem to me that there are valid concerns/reasoning that justify NOT using the polygraph.  So my question to the legislators is why are other government agencies still using it if it doesn't provide a true indicator of a person's honesty and trustworthiness??  (Just asking because I am confused by all of this)...or is it just all a political decision that is used within each individual agency?

[Twoblock]

BBernie

I read your posts and you ask some pretty good questions. Why don't you write your legislators and ask them about their federal polygraph policy? (IF) they answer and the answer is not to your liking, then why not campaign against them. They sure will not agree to be polygraphed to hold their jobs. While you're at it, ask them how they will/did vote on legislation that is taking this country down, i.e. Cap and Trade, socialized health care, NAFTA and the UN's:Law of the Sea Treaty.

Join the movement to "FLIP THE CONGRESS"

[pixkbi]

they aren't all that selective in their hiring practices