List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph

[Random_Man]

As a new member to the site, it occurs to me that listing the LE Depts that choose not to utilize the polygraph exam as a condition of hiring should be publicized on this site. I seek to start this in the hopes that those depts may see boosted recruiting numbers from aspiring law enforcement candidates who, despite being truthful, had failed their polygraph. While the inevitable feedback from pro-polygraph members would be that this would also give a list of depts to deceptive candidates, my response would be that that's what background investigations are for! Also, if those depts that don't polygraph see boosted recruitment numbers, that may encourage depts that do polygraph who are hurting for applicants to reconsider including the polygraph in their recruitment process.

Any ideas?

[Random_Man]

Responding to myself, it appears I'm not the only one one this board that has attempted such a list - however, depts get added and subtracted piecemeal and unreliably. I will start with the depts that we know for sure that don't. Once we are finished, I would hope a definitive list is compiled and stickied for future reference:

All of MA depts
NYPD
NJ State Police
Minnesota Cities/Towns

[whoanow]

State of Oregon does not poly.   I could be wrong, but with the exception of the FBI I don't think federal LE agencies poly...or randomly poly a cross section of applicants.

[woogie]

Philadelphia & Pittsburgh departments don't polygraph, and I've heard the Supreme Court Police don't polygraph, either.

[Random_Man]

Here's the updated list:

Massachusetts Cities/Towns
Minnesota Cities/Towns
Oregon Cities/Towns
New York City PD (NYPD)
City of Philadelphia
City of Pittsburgh
New Jersey State Police
-Supreme Court Police (unconfirmed)

*adding on, most federal agencies do require the polygraph, perhaps not on initial entry but at some point early in their career every federal agent would have to.

[woogie]

you can confirm that supreme court police.  a friend just got in last year, never got polygraphed, and a friend is going through the process now, and he also said they dont polygraph.

[blaqmasq]

when i went through Los Angeles PD in 1994, i wasn't poly'd.  but again, it was in 1994.

[George W. Maschke]

LAPD has required pre-employment polygraph screening for a number of years now; the failure rate is on the order of 50%.

[JB]

Here's the updated list:

Massachusetts Cities/Towns
Minnesota Cities/Towns
Oregon Cities/Towns
New York City PD (NYPD)
City of Philadelphia
City of Pittsburgh
New Jersey State Police
-Supreme Court Police (unconfirmed)

*adding on, most federal agencies do require the polygraph, perhaps not on initial entry but at some point early in their career every federal agent would have to.

I think Pittsburgh does poly. It says they do on there website.

[woogie]

just had a friend hired last year with pittsburgh last year.  the website also said the polygraph is included with the background check, but he said he wasn't polygraphed.  either the department only poly's some applicants, or they don't do it at all.  it could be there for the future, but i'm not 100% sure.

[skeptical]

ALL Florida agencies' hiring requirements are available via the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (including polygraph and/or voice stress). Visit http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/CJST/cjap/2005/general/Indexcjap2005.html and then click (for example) law enforcement -> police departments -> requirements -> table 3. Sheriffs offices, state agencies, ports, and schools are also available. Good luck to all.

[DippityShurff]

ALL Florida agencies' hiring requirements are available via the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (including polygraph and/or voice stress). Visit http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/CJST/cjap/2005/general/Indexcjap2005.html and then click (for example) law enforcement -> police departments -> requirements -> table 3. Sheriffs offices, state agencies, ports, and schools are also available. Good luck to all.

I do believe that all FL agencies either do polygraph or voice stress.  VS is big down there because the NITV is located down that way and have a pretty good sales presence.  Am I correct that all require either one, or the other?  I used to keep up down that way

[skeptical]

No, you're not correct. That's why I provided the link.

For instance, in Hillsborough County required poly, Palm Beach County requires voice stress analysis, and Highlands County requires neither.

[DippityShurff]

No, you're not correct. That's why I provided the link.

For instance, in Hillsborough County required poly, Palm Beach County requires voice stress analysis, and Highlands County requires neither.

Well then, that is at least the 2nd mistake I've made today. And I have now seen the link LOL

[bacon_aint_easy]

Chicago Police dept.