what happened to, "I retired?"   

Just being fair here, because you know other people are asking.  I'm just brave or stupid enough to ask what everyone else is thinking.

Dan Mangan wrote on May 27^th, 2017 at 1:59am:


You rascal!

Hey Joe McCarthy,

Does your internet radio/podcast offer still hold?

I'd love to debate my APA president-elect opponents Steve Duncan and Dr. John Palmatier, but I doubt they have the balls to participate.

If you can set it up, I'm all in.

But it's a package deal.

[cue crickets]

No doubt, Joe, the APA race for president-elect will be interesting.

Steve Duncan is a long time APA politico, so he's the odds-on favorite.

That said, more and more APA members want change.

John Palmatier, PhD, appears much more qualified than Duncan, but, IMHO, the good doctor comes off as glib, unctuous and pedantic -- a big turnoff.

Then there's that pesky realist, Mangan...

The election will be a crapshoot.

Just like the "test".

Dan

I don't give a rats ass who wins.

I don't benefit from any of you being president.  I have no skin in the contest; and in the end, I firmly believe that either the status quo will be followed, or polygraph will be totally destroyed. 

So me and the small examiners are screwed in the long or short run either way.  

The polygraph industry, like humanity, in my opinion, is destined to destroy ourselves, from within, in favor of egos, or the status quo.  

It's a matter of how fast to we want the end to come.  Because I have little faith that you or the establishment want to fix anything for the better good.  

My only goal in this is keeping things fair

The American Polygraph Association has about 2,700 members. Of those, 1,652 are LE/GOVT examiners and 1,065 are private examiners.

Clearly, the LE/GOVT members are the majority.

That said, let's look at the results of the last two races for APA president-elect...

2016

Jamie McCloughan --------339
Dan Mangan  --------------116


2015

Pat O'Burke --------------394
Dan Mangan -------------154


While the APA has about 2,700 members, participation in the election process is dismal.

In 2015, 548 members cast ballots for president-elect. Turnout was down last year, with only 455 votes being cast for president-elect.

I received 25% of the vote in 2016, and 28% of the vote in 2015.

In 2015 I conducted a limited outreach program targeting potential voters. I did no such campaigning in 2016.

I'd love to mount a vigorous campaign, but there's a roadblock:  I do not have access to the APA's master member directory. If I did, that would make life much easier.

So, what will turnout be this year? My hunch is that it will be midway between that of 2015 and 2016, say, about 500 voters.

The real horse race is between APA establishment politico Duncan and science guy Palmatier.

We already know I'm capable of getting 154 votes when I reach out to members, even in a limited way as I did in 2015. Looking ahead, If I could grow that number by just 10% that would bring me to 169 votes. 

If Duncan and Palmatier were to evenly split the remainder of the hypothetical 500 total votes cast, they'd have only 165 votes each.

Sure, it's conjecture, but once in a while hell does freeze over.

I think it would be foolish to jump to any foregone conclusions just yet...

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/maxprovocateur/2017/06/03/oh-danny-boy-the-pipes-th....


12 midnight tonight


I will not be taking calls for this session, and it will mainly be meant as a blog to prep for a long process of getting Dan and the other APA Candidates to come on and answer some questions about why they feel the APA voters should trust them.

Having said that, in this episode I will mainly be addressing Dan, and his apparent need to control the narrative and be a bully.

I really do hope all members of the polygraph community listen, and get my take on this whole thing, in a deeper and more personal level than the written word.  I'll also leave the episode on line so it can be podcast later.