OK - here's the long story....

Monday morning a meeting was held at work stating that all of us that had access to money that was stolen would be taking a polygraph either Tuesday or Wednesday, except for one person who was out for medical reasons and would be tested at a later date.  We were also told that the polygrapher is the company that did David Vitter's prostitutes exam.  So being the curious George I am I looked it up and found that to be Edward Gelb of Intercept, Inc. (who appears to work alone).  Along with my search I also found that the EPPA laws were not being followed - AT ALL!  

So I go to take my first of a three segment exam (each lasting less than 3-5 minutes).  And I'm handed a two-page form turned to the 2nd page and asked to sign.  When asked for time to read it I was told that it was just the standard release form.  I informed the examiner that I was not comfortable signing the release form since the correct procedures had not been followed, and that I had stumbled upon the EPPA guidelines on the internet (since they aren't posted anywhere in the building where I work) and was aware that I was not given any written notice prior to the exam.  She stated that if I was going to take the exam then I needed to sign the release.  I asked for a copy that I have not yet been given.

So I take the three series of short questioning (no written questions were ever presented - no pre or post interview).  I'm asked is my name **, do I live in ***, have I ever stolen from a previous employer (to which I honestly answered YES) a couple of questions regarding my involvement in the crime (I had none!!) and had I lied to anyone in authority that trusted me (again I honestly answered YES).

I report to work and the owner calls me to the office where the examiner was waiting and they explained to me that I had the highest rate of deception on the crime questions.  I found out later that the examiner had also disclosed the results to other employees and stated that I was combative before the exam started.   So I asked for  copy of the results or to at least look at them because I felt that there was only one question that I replied dishonestly to (have you ever stolen anything from employer) - my first reaction was "NO" but then all the free drinks I've poured myself an condiment cups I took for mouthwash at home came rushing back so I'm sure I bombed that one and I wanted to see what the answer to that question looked like compared to the questions that just made me nervous.  Anyway - I was told that I wouldn't be able to tell anything from the charts and a written report by the examiner would eventually be made available to me.  I then asked what company they were with because neither one of them looked much like Ed Gelb (saw pic on the net) they didn't know who that was and I said "you never worked for interecept, inc?"  She'd never heard of that either.  So I asked my employer "didn't you tell us this company was so reputable that Larry Flint hired them to do David Vitter's prostitute?"  My employer then started back tracking, saying that she never said that - she said it 10 times in front of dozens of people.  So now I'm thinking that she got some yahoo's that would do it the cheapest ($500 for first exam and $75 for each additional sounds extremely cheap) and I pissed the examiner off when I stated that I wanted read what I was signing since I already knew the laws weren't being followed.  

Also - after we all took our test we (wrongly) compared questions and the others were asked all sorts of stuff about things very pointed towards that person - the pot head was asked if they every bought or sold drugs while at work, etc. and I was only asked questions directly relating to the incident.  I feel like I was set-up some how.  I live and work in a very small, close-knit neighborhood and this is defaming my character.  I am being given the opportunity to take another test with a company that I find, but am on suspension pending that exam.  My permanent employement status will be discussed after that test.

I have not read about any of the counter-measures because I didn't need or want to try to 'cheat' but I'm freaking out!  

I am pretty sure I have a case to sue my employer because of all the EPPA rules that have been broken, and I don't want to do that, but she's put my job and my reputation in jeopardy by lying to us about who she hired and going with an unreputable company.  I would think that a 'reputable' polygrapher would have made sure the rules were followed, but they broke the rules themselves.

Comments, Advice anyone?

I'll keep reading the book - I now wish I hadn't been so damn honest.  I truly feel this 'failed' result is because of an unqualified, perhaps even biased polygrapher.

As soon as I have the company name I'll email it to you.  Since we weren't not given anything in writing, the only thing I know is the examiner was a female named Dawn and her 'observer' was named Steve.

scenario: took the test and failed but innocent!!! an admitted thief passed and still has their job.  myself now unemployed.  want to know if in the state of nevada is the cvsa is admissable in court.  from what i heard it is admissable in california.  to boot i found out i was unemployed because the stand in manager informed a client in front of an employee before i had heard from hr that was no longer suspended but fired.  and to add insult to injury the big boss had covered 1/2 of the theft by writing a check and covering it.  visual tapes show that no body including me did it but the result of the test was taken over the tape.

To both victims

I don't know either state's laws, but i'll bet neither allows what happened to you both. I would think neither would accept anyone being fired from a job based solely on the polygraph or CVSA.  More good advice get a lawyer and sue.

hi.. you are calling the wrong people.. you need to talk to the Department of Labor..they investigate and initiate action.. if they find a violation then you can sue... based upon what you've said I see a number of violations of the EPPA  including the confidentiality agreement

gary davis

I'll bet you a cup of coffee your employer lied to you again.  I bet you could be re-tested, but your employer found out she messed up and is back tracking.  The couple I know who went to the Grogan lie detector, ended up going to a another individual who resolved their issue.   

Sorry to hear your employer is not up front with you.

My Fiance just failed a poly test really badly and I am scared. He is much younger than I am and is from another country. SO I agreed to marry him IF he took a poly test, which I paid $500 for. The administer, Mark, came to my place, ask us why I want the test and some background info, as to why I would ask about infidelity. I was allowed to ask 5 questions (like have you kissed other girls, etc). Mark told me out of 9999, you would "have to get at least 7,000 to be considered an honest person". SADLY my guy got a score of 1,734. So he failed miserably. 
My guy CRIED real tears for HOURS telling me he is innocent and this test must be wrong. He swears on his Mothers life he has been loyal etc. Is there a chance he was accused falsely? I would love your opinion

Thanks

Dottie

Thank you SO much George. What a relief to read your info. x