Fair Chance, You are confusing reputation for integrity. Reputation is who people think you are. Integrity is who you really are. Integrity is not an abstract, either you have it or you don't. You can give it away, You can throw it away, you might even be talked out of it,  but no one can take it away from you unless you are prepared to turn it loose. 

You can live with a bad reputation, but if you try to live without integrity it will rot you from the inside. If you compromise your integrity to obtain what you want then your success will bring you no satisfaction because while you may learn to live with the lies you have told others, you will never reconcile the lies you try to tell yourself. This will prevent you from regaining your integrity.

Twoblock wrote on Sep 28^th, 2008 at 1:56am:


If you would do some research, you might just find that  George Maschke wrote in a thread he named "Al-Qaeda Has Read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector"

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Apparently Dr. Mashcke knows where they got their information even if you don't. From his full post one might reasonably conclude he was proud of the fact

Sancho Panza

Naughty Sancho fibbing again.

Sancho, do you falsely accuse people of child molestation too?

Karma dude!

TC

Dr. Maschke. I was evidently in error regarding the specific languages that Al Queda uses to inform its terrorists of the content of your book. I'm not the expert in Near Eastern Languages. You Are.  However, my error really doesn't  change the fact that according to your own posting;

[quote] Al-Qaeda Has Read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector
Jan 9th, 2006, 2:46pm    Al-Qaeda has read, (more or less) understood, and summarized in Arabic the information on polygraph procedure and countermeasures presented in AntiPolygraph.org's free e-book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. ['quote]

Wouldn't it be fair and reasonable to conclude from your post that your work has been, or is being, used to educate terrorists and that you are well aware of it?   

Hypothetically, should one of these terrorists trash a set of polygraph charts using your lies and countermeasures to the point that the test was inconclusive and then go on to strap explosives  to himself and detonate them in a restaurant where your family happened to be having lunch murdering them and many others, would you regret in any way your participation in their deaths?

To the rest of you here. How exactly would you feel about polygraph countermeasures if they were involved in any way in the death of someone you loved?


Mr. Cullen what exactly are you claiming is a FALSE accusation?


Sancho Panza

SanchoPanza wrote on Sep 28^th, 2008 at 6:31pm:


I'm perplexed because you specifically suggested that portions of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector had been translated not just into "Farsi" (Persian as spoken in Iran) but also "Eastern Persian" (more commonly called Dari, the dialect of Persian spoken in Afghanistan). For all intents and purposes, both are written the same, so a translation into one would be the same as a translation into the other, just as a translation into American English would differ but little from a translation into British English.

The article to which you refer, "The Myth of the Lie Detector," (discussed here) was written in Arabic, and it's not a translation of any portion of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, though it's obviously derived in part from it.

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I think there can be no doubt but that the author of "The Myth of the Lie Detector" used The Lie Behind the Lie Detector as a source. And of course I was previously aware of it. After all, it was me who posted the news.

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There are no lies in The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. Terrorists can use the information provided therein not only to cause inconclusive results, but also to pass the polygraph while lying about relevant issues.

In the scenario you outline, I would affix blame for the security breach squarely on those who -- rejecting the scientific consensus that polygraphy is without scientific basis and not robust against countermeasures -- had the hubris to continue relying on this pseudoscience for national security purposes.

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Which they do for the sake of bureaucratic/administrative expediency.  As for the politicians, there is absolutely no political price to pay for continuing to support the use of the polygraph.   

The public still thinks it works.  So does the media. There must be change on that front, before any real change will take place.  Most people will never, ever have to take a polygraph.  It will take a "smoking gun" causing a media frenzy feeding a public outcry for any changes to take place.

In the meantime, we need to continue to focus our attention of helping those that do have to take the test, and continue to expose the myth.

TC

P.S.  If you disagree with me, then you sir, must be an Iranian child molester!

getrealalready wrote on Sep 28^th, 2008 at 7:05pm:



Based on Sancho's posts he would feel that those victims are "acceptable casualties" of polygraph because of the ( as he puts it) countless criminals that have been convicted from what he believes to be polygraph evidence. 
Hmmmmm, I wonder if he would feel the same if Gary slaughtered his daughter after passing a polygraph?
Or,  would he just caulk it up to " operator error" 

So Dr. Maschke, You write a book that repeatedly tells the reader that it is OK to lie and tries to teach the reader how to successfully lie, but if someone then uses your advice, obtains release and murders your family, you claim you have no share in the responsibility?  That's a pile of fertilizer and you know it. 

It's obvious you value your self annointed position as the anti-polygraph guru more than you value your family. Do they know that?  Twoblock, Notguilty1, Mr. Cullen, if you agree with Dr. Maschke on this I can now understand why my comments regarding integrity appeared so far beyond your comprehension. 

How do you know that Gary Ridgeway didn't use some type af counter measure with a polygraph examiner who was untrained in spotting them. Whose fault would him passing his test be? I'm betting each and everyone of will refuse to point a single finger at whoever gave Ridgeway the advice. 

I would imagine that you all believe that nothing that has ever happened to you has ever been the result of your own actions. You have a deep seated need to blame others for anything that might be your own fault. You probably blame meter maids for your parking tickets and Leprechans for insufficient green marshmellow clovers in your "lucky Charms"

I'm going to leave this board for awhile. I'm sure that you will spend the next few days patting yourselves on the back and gloating that you chased me out of here. For the record, the real reason I'm leaving is that your immoral stench would knock a flock of buzzards off of a gut wagon and I am going to seek the company of those who don't make me want to puke. I know that whether I come back 2 days, 20 years or never,   2 things will be guarenteed.  #1 Polygraph will still be in use, gaining in popularity and  court acceptance and #2 You guys will still be here whining. You couldn't organize the closure of a lemonade stand much less do away with polygraph. 

DR. Maschke you may delete this post if the truth hurts too much. Although if you do, I would expect you to manufacture some bogus reason for deletion. 

You may now commence to wallow and grunt amoung yourselves.  

SanchoPanza