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Topic Summary - Displaying 25 post(s).
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 27th, 2020 at 1:32pm
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As noted on the blog, Doug Williams' court-ordered three-year period of supervised release, which forbade him from participating in any "polygraph-related activity," expired on Sunday, 26 July 2020.

Williams is again free to teach people how to pass or beat a polygraph "test" and plans to resume doing so.

It is hard to see what public interest was served by his entrapment and imprisonment.
Posted by: John M.
Posted on: Jul 26th, 2017 at 5:26pm
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George W. Maschke wrote on Jul 26th, 2017 at 3:59pm:
Doug Williams left the federal prison camp at Florence, Colorado this morning and is on his way home:


Hell Yeah!  Congratulations Doug!  I am confident that you will receive the justice that you seek.

Let's roll.
Posted by: Wandersmann
Posted on: Jul 26th, 2017 at 5:08pm
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George W. Maschke wrote on Jul 25th, 2017 at 6:01am:
I have been in touch with Doug via the CorrLinks email service while he has been in prison, where he has not had access to websites.  I sent him selected message threads and blog posts and posted his replies on his behalf. The court has not yet ruled on Doug's motion for modification of the terms of his supervised release.


Happy day for truth, justice, and the real American Way !  As far as the court, the judge has, in my opinion, proven herself to be too weak to contemplate government fallibility.  I'm not crossing my fingers for a favorable ruling but hope the Doug can find a way forward regardless of the decision.
Posted by: Aunty Agony
Posted on: Jul 26th, 2017 at 4:34pm
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Doug looks stronger and happier than ever. 

Aunty is only an imaginary avatar but if she were real she would want to have Doug's babies. 
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 26th, 2017 at 3:59pm
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Doug Williams left the federal prison camp at Florence, Colorado this morning and is on his way home:

https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2017/07/26/polygraph-critic-doug-williams-freed-f...
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 25th, 2017 at 6:01am
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Glad Doug is getting out. Can he go back to running his website, polygraph consultation business, and selling his book?  How was doug able to have access to comment on this forum while he was in jail, or did he talk to George by phone? When I was in jail, I had no computer access and phone calls were monitored.


I have been in touch with Doug via the CorrLinks email service while he has been in prison, where he has not had access to websites.  I sent him selected message threads and blog posts and posted his replies on his behalf. The court has not yet ruled on Doug's motion for modification of the terms of his supervised release.
Posted by: Go Doug
Posted on: Jul 25th, 2017 at 3:08am
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Glad Doug is getting out. Can he go back to running his website, polygraph consultation business, and selling his book?  How was doug able to have access to comment on this forum while he was in jail, or did he talk to George by phone? When I was in jail, I had no computer access and phone calls were monitored.

Jail makes you a better criminal, I have no respect for law or national security any more. I hope Doug and others will continue to teach people how the poly works as just an interrogation game of chance. I have been teaching people about it myself and opening their eyes to how it is all a psych game, but just in casual talk. I would like to see everyone prepared for the interrogation and accusations that are routine with a poly, so less and less confessions are given, and polygraphers start getting more pissed off because their secret has been outed.
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 24th, 2017 at 12:15pm
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Doug Williams is scheduled to be released from the federal prison camp in Florence, Colorado this Wednesday morning, 26 July 2017.  Smiley

The court has not yet ruled on his November 2016 motion for amendment of the terms of his upcoming three-year period of supervised release.
Posted by: Joe McCarthy
Posted on: Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:31am
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Doug Williams wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:24pm:
Joe McCarthy wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 10:45am:
Doug Williams wrote on Feb 20th, 2017 at 1:05am:
As Dr. Maschke correctly states, this marks the first time that the government has admitted that I can teach a person to pass the polygraph test regardless of whether they are telling the truth  or lying.  I have said for almost forty years that if I can teach a person to control every tracing on the polygraph chart and ALWAYS pass, nervous or not, lying or not, no matter what, that is prima facie evidence that the polygraph is not a "lie detector".  It defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless.  I have much more to say in my reply to the government which Dr. Maschke will post when it is filed.


Doug, and I say this with all due respect, the "ALWAYS pass" thing, come on.  They don't "ALWAYS" pass.

Now that being set aside.  I am glad that you are well, and you got out of a very difficult time in your life.  I take no joy in someone else's misery.

Actually, check that.  There are a few I would take pleasure in seeing miserable, you are not one of them.  We may disagree about a lot, but you've never taken things to a personal level with me.  


You are quite correct Joe, they don't ALWAYS pass - not because they didn't produce a perfect "truthful" chart, but because polygraph operators often disregard the fact that the person did in fact produce a chart that should be scored as "NO DECEPTION INDICATED".  It is an unfortunate fact that all too often polygraph operators call a person deceptive and "fail" them even though it is obvious from the chart tracings that they had told the truth - or at least what passes for the truth on the polygraph.  But I can teach a person to do what they need to do to ALWAYS produce a "truthful" chart.  It is very simple to teach a person to produce a reaction on the control questions and show no reaction on the relevant questions, but you are right, I cannot guarantee them that the polygraph operator will accurately report what he/she sees on the chart.  I have taught thousands of people to "pass" the test and for the past 10 years I have used the AXCITON computerized polygraph instrument and in the last several years have used the scoring software which ALWAYS shows a reading of NO DECEPTION INDICATED.



Thanks for the classy (being sincere) response.  Again, I am happy to see you well and heathy.  With all sincerity
Posted by: Joe McCarthy
Posted on: Feb 24th, 2017 at 8:29am
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Doug Williams wrote on Feb 22nd, 2017 at 4:51am:
Wandersmann wrote on Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:25pm:
You are correct Doug.  It defies logic and anyone with half-a-brain can see not only the logic but the PROOF in the anti-polygraph message.  Our problem lies 100% with corruption.  Corrupt lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats.  Let's find one honest man or woman somewhere in authority to start turning things around.


Yes, greed and corruption are at the root of the problem with the polygraph.  Perhaps a phone call and letter writing campaign to Pres. Trump would be effective.  I cannot believe he would allow this to continue if he was made aware of the waste, fraud and abuse in the government polygraph program.



Don't even get me started with greed and corruption in the polygraph industry.  I been fighting it for 10 years now
Posted by: Doug Williams
Posted on: Feb 22nd, 2017 at 6:24pm
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Joe McCarthy wrote on Feb 21st, 2017 at 10:45am:
Doug Williams wrote on Feb 20th, 2017 at 1:05am:
As Dr. Maschke correctly states, this marks the first time that the government has admitted that I can teach a person to pass the polygraph test regardless of whether they are telling the truth  or lying.  I have said for almost forty years that if I can teach a person to control every tracing on the polygraph chart and ALWAYS pass, nervous or not, lying or not, no matter what, that is prima facie evidence that the polygraph is not a "lie detector".  It defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless.  I have much more to say in my reply to the government which Dr. Maschke will post when it is filed.


Doug, and I say this with all due respect, the "ALWAYS pass" thing, come on.  They don't "ALWAYS" pass.

Now that being set aside.  I am glad that you are well, and you got out of a very difficult time in your life.  I take no joy in someone else's misery.

Actually, check that.  There are a few I would take pleasure in seeing miserable, you are not one of them.  We may disagree about a lot, but you've never taken things to a personal level with me.  


You are quite correct Joe, they don't ALWAYS pass - not because they didn't produce a perfect "truthful" chart, but because polygraph operators often disregard the fact that the person did in fact produce a chart that should be scored as "NO DECEPTION INDICATED".  It is an unfortunate fact that all too often polygraph operators call a person deceptive and "fail" them even though it is obvious from the chart tracings that they had told the truth - or at least what passes for the truth on the polygraph.  But I can teach a person to do what they need to do to ALWAYS produce a "truthful" chart.  It is very simple to teach a person to produce a reaction on the control questions and show no reaction on the relevant questions, but you are right, I cannot guarantee them that the polygraph operator will accurately report what he/she sees on the chart.  I have taught thousands of people to "pass" the test and for the past 10 years I have used the AXCITON computerized polygraph instrument and in the last several years have used the scoring software which ALWAYS shows a reading of NO DECEPTION INDICATED.
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Feb 22nd, 2017 at 1:48pm
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On 21 February 2017, Doug Williams filed a reply to the U.S. government's opposition to his motion that he be allowed to engage in polygraph-related activities during his upcoming period of supervised release:

https://antipolygraph.org/litigation/doug-williams/doug-williams-reply-to-govern...

As noted on the blog, Williams argues forcefully (and, I hope, effectively) why his freedom of speech should not be curtailed.
Posted by: Doug Williams
Posted on: Feb 22nd, 2017 at 4:51am
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Wandersmann wrote on Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:25pm:
You are correct Doug.  It defies logic and anyone with half-a-brain can see not only the logic but the PROOF in the anti-polygraph message.  Our problem lies 100% with corruption.  Corrupt lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats.  Let's find one honest man or woman somewhere in authority to start turning things around.


Yes, greed and corruption are at the root of the problem with the polygraph.  Perhaps a phone call and letter writing campaign to Pres. Trump would be effective.  I cannot believe he would allow this to continue if he was made aware of the waste, fraud and abuse in the government polygraph program.
Posted by: Joe McCarthy
Posted on: Feb 21st, 2017 at 10:45am
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Doug Williams wrote on Feb 20th, 2017 at 1:05am:
As Dr. Maschke correctly states, this marks the first time that the government has admitted that I can teach a person to pass the polygraph test regardless of whether they are telling the truth  or lying.  I have said for almost forty years that if I can teach a person to control every tracing on the polygraph chart and ALWAYS pass, nervous or not, lying or not, no matter what, that is prima facie evidence that the polygraph is not a "lie detector".  It defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless.  I have much more to say in my reply to the government which Dr. Maschke will post when it is filed.


Doug, and I say this with all due respect, the "ALWAYS pass" thing, come on.  They don't "ALWAYS" pass.

Now that being set aside.  I am glad that you are well, and you got out of a very difficult time in your life.  I take no joy in someone else's misery.

Actually, check that.  There are a few I would take pleasure in seeing miserable, you are not one of them.  We may disagree about a lot, but you've never taken things to a personal level with me.   
Posted by: Wandersmann
Posted on: Feb 20th, 2017 at 6:25pm
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Doug Williams wrote on Feb 20th, 2017 at 1:05am:
It defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless.


You are correct Doug.  It defies logic and anyone with half-a-brain can see not only the logic but the PROOF in the anti-polygraph message.  Our problem lies 100% with corruption.  Corrupt lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats.  Let's find one honest man or woman somewhere in authority to start turning things around. 
Posted by: Doug Williams
Posted on: Feb 20th, 2017 at 1:05am
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As Dr. Maschke correctly states, this marks the first time that the government has admitted that I can teach a person to pass the polygraph test regardless of whether they are telling the truth  or lying.  I have said for almost forty years that if I can teach a person to control every tracing on the polygraph chart and ALWAYS pass, nervous or not, lying or not, no matter what, that is prima facie evidence that the polygraph is not a "lie detector".  It defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless.  I have much more to say in my reply to the government which Dr. Maschke will post when it is filed.
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Feb 19th, 2017 at 5:09am
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On 10 February 2017, the U.S. Department of Justice filed a brief in opposition to Doug Williams' motion that he be allowed to engage in polygraph-related activities during his upcoming period of supervised release:

https://antipolygraph.org/litigation/doug-williams/doug-williams-united-states-o...

As noted on the blog, the Department of Justice effectively concedes that polygraph countermeasures are effective.
Posted by: Aunty Agony
Posted on: Dec 9th, 2016 at 3:04pm
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George W. Maschke wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:48am:
Doug added this disclaimer after the Operation Lie Busters raid on his office and home. This is a point that the prosecution raised on the second day of Doug's trial:

My mistake, I missed that.

In that case, the argument is not weak at all. It is quite in line with what any DOJ likes to see.
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Dec 9th, 2016 at 9:48am
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Aunty Agony wrote on Dec 9th, 2016 at 12:14am:
However the weakest branch of Williams's argument is the assertion that his disclaimer ("...I will not give you a practice test if you tell me you plan to lie...") is "sufficient to prevent his involvement in any alleged scheme to defraud the Government or the tampering with any witness". The facts in evidence prove that this is not true. The disclaimer was on display and in effect when Doug was entrapped into violating its provisions.


Doug added this disclaimer after the Operation Lie Busters raid on his office and home. This is a point that the prosecution raised on the second day of Doug's trial:

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SA Robbins testified that after the 21 February 2013 raid, Williams made changes to his website, including removal of the claim that he could teach a person to pass the polygraph “lying or not” and the addition of a “terms of service” statement clarifying that he would not train anyone who told him that they intended to lie, and that any in-person training customer who made such a statement would forfeit the fee and not receive training.
Posted by: Doug Williams
Posted on: Dec 9th, 2016 at 8:53am
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George, thanks for your support and I hope the judge agrees with you that my request is reasonable and should be granted.
Posted by: Wandersmann
Posted on: Dec 9th, 2016 at 5:32am
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George W. Maschke wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:35pm:
I think his motion is reasonable and should be granted.

 
There are huge First Amendment issues in Doug's favor.  The fact that he's already published a book on this matter is important.  Journalists have gotten away with espionage because of First Amendment protection, not that I'm equating Doug to anything bad.   I think the government goons painted themselves into a corner with their entrapment.  As I recall it was stipulated in the trial or some other legal proceeding that teaching about the evils of the polygraph and the specifics of the junk science is legal.  For them to continue to suppress his efforts to speak simple truth would help bring to light what a bunch of Stalinist style thugs these polypunks really are.  I think this case may eventually help bring them down.  Doug is truly a political prisoner.
Posted by: Aunty Agony
Posted on: Dec 9th, 2016 at 12:14am
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I agree that his motion is reasonable and should be granted. 

However the weakest branch of Williams's argument is the assertion that his disclaimer ("...I will not give you a practice test if you tell me you plan to lie...") is "sufficient to prevent his involvement in any alleged scheme to defraud the Government or the tampering with any witness". The facts in evidence prove that this is not true. The disclaimer was on display and in effect when Doug was entrapped into violating its provisions. 

Actually, the fact that he was so badly entrapped should be sufficient to deter any further violations. He set up a rule to protect himself and came to grief only from not following it. He won't do that again. 

If Doug gets a chance to support this motion with oral argument, perhaps he should lean on the idea that he takes the appropriate lesson from his conviction and sentence. Justice department functionaries love to hear how their work straightens people out. 
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Dec 8th, 2016 at 2:35pm
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On 21 November 2016, Doug Williams filed a pro se motion to amend the terms of his supervised release so as to allow him to engage in polygraph-related activity to the extent that it is not "intended or part of a scheme to defraud the United States or tamper with witnesses."

Williams' motion may be downloaded here:

https://antipolygraph.org/litigation/doug-williams/doug-williams-motion-for-modi...

I think his motion is reasonable and should be granted.
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Aug 21st, 2016 at 7:34am
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A user of the link-sharing site Reddit recently posted the link to the Bloomberg video report on Doug Williams' plight. The post presently has 221 comments and may be of interest to AntiPolygraph.org readers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/4yhuuo/til_douglas_williams_an_a...
Posted by: xenonman
Posted on: Apr 10th, 2016 at 9:59pm
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The risks to one's life and liberty do indeed appear considerable! Sad
 
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