I got BUSTED trying to use CMs!!!

[busted]

Wow, I can't believe this.  Really guys?  So a person comes on here and says they were busted using CMs, and that person must be a pro-polygraph supporter in disguise.  But if a person comes on here and says they beat the poly using CMs, then the pro-polygraph people swear that that person must have been tested by a less-than-qualified-examiner.  Does this logic make sense to anyone???

I give you my word that I am not a polygraher or a pro-polygraph supporter.  I am someone who tried to use CMs and failed.  I'm sure I'm not the first person in the world that this happened too.  You all are free to believe what you want to believe. But if you just dispell those of us who supported this site but failed to successfully employ CMs and got caught, then what good is it to even try to post our story here?  I'm done.  I've given my honest story and provided my first hand advice to those who will be taking a poly soon.  If you are nervous and going to take a poly and will be trying these CM tricks for the first time and think you will pass with no problem, as if you are the first person to ever do this, you are fooling yourself.  Try sitting in that chair for three hours while the same questions are repeated over and over and think you can mimic your same CM pattern the entire time, on the right questions, without fault...
Goodbye

[stefano]

Wow, I can't believe this.Really guys?So a person comes on here and says they were busted using CMs, and that person must be a pro-polygraph supporter in disguise.

I don't believe you because I have studied all of your postings and they don't pass the reasonableness test.

[George W. Maschke]

I don't remember the EXACT questions, but they were similar to what was mentioned in TLBTLD.  What does it matter?...

I'm interested in the questions you believed to be "control" questions because you stated in your original post that you took a polygraph for "a big secret government agency." The implication is that it was either the CIA or the NSA. Both of these agencies use the relevant/irrelevant technique for pre-employment polygraph screening. This technique does not generally include any control questions. Hence my curiosity regarding the specific questions that you identified as control questions.

[busted]

I have a BIG CORRECTION to make.  I apologize for this in advance and sorry for any trouble I caused.  In my original posts, I claimed  that I was caught using CMs on "Control Questions" for pre-employment with a top secret government agency.  I had kept a personal journal of my recruitment process where I documented everything that occured, then stashed it away for some time.  I have just dug this journal up out of my clutter and discovered something.  The questions that I was asked on my polygraph WERE NOT CONTROL QUESTIONS, they were IRRELEVANT QUESTIONS as classified in TLBTLD book on this site.  I didn't realize this at first but after re-reading TLBTLD, I noticed this.  Therefore, I had been using the breathing method of CMs on the Irrelevant Questions, not Control Questions which are non-existent in this polygraph session.  I bet that by me using breathing CMs at the wrong time (TLBTLD says they should be used during control questions, not irrelevant questions), that I screwed myself.  This is likely the reason for my failure of the polygraph.  Well, I admit this mistake.  I recommend everyone reading TLBTLD thorougly  before you take a poly so you don't make the same mistake I did.  Anyway, I'm sorry for the confusion.  I used breating CMs at the wrong time and I screwed myself.   I have more faith in this website now.  I was busted due to only to my negligence.

[stefano]

I have just dug this journal up out of my clutter and discovered something.The questions that I was asked on my polygraph WERE NOT CONTROL QUESTIONS, they were IRRELEVANT QUESTIONS as classified in TLBTLD book on this site.

You read TLBTLD before taking the polygraph exam, but you failed to grasp the difference between an irrelevant question and a control question? And after George impeaches your original posting, you are overcome by this sudden epiphany? Your story becomes more enigmatic with each posting.

[rawform]

Busted,
My intention is not to be rude but to state the obvious. If you are a legitimate applicant, then you must be a moron and I would think that you should not be working for our government. Since you knew about TLBTLD and could not even properly prepare for such and important part of your application process it's my thought that you would be of no benefit to any of the government's agencies. Your application process is of the utmost importance and the first impression the recruitment office has of you. If I where going to be applying to "a big secret government agency" I would have studied TLBTLD until I my eye's bled. There is no way I would just apply with out preparation. Which leads me to believe one of two things, you must be a NEW polygrapher making a lame attempt to sidestep new viewers of this site, because any seasoned polygrapher who has been on this site knows damn well most of us would not fall for such a bad act. Or you are truly an idiot that should go back to school and learn a few things before attempting to apply for a J-O-B with our government. Good luck with what ever you're attempting to do.
 

[busted]

FUCK ALL OF YOU!  YOU WOULDN'T KNOW A TRUE STORY IF IT PISSED ON YOUR FACES!  FUCK THIS SITE, IT IS NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS WITH SMART ASS COMMENTS.  YOU ARE PROBABLY ALL POLYGRAPHERS AND GEORGE IS THE ONLY LEGITIMATE ONE ON THIS SITE. YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKIN BITCHES AND CAN GO TO HELL!  FUCKIN ASSHOLES!


George, feel free to delete this entire thread since the assholes on here only fucked it up and swear that I must be lying or be an undercover polygrapher, which is their stupid response to everything.  I hope you all die a slow painful death!

[stefano]

Busted, I'm sorry you are so perturbed about this. Perplexing as it may seem, some polygraphists, who are supposedly professionals in search of the truth, engage in silly childish deception themselves with their lame and often humorous attempts at impostorization. They seem to have total control over their charade in the polygraph suite, but not here. I have no ill will towards you, I simply don't believe you because your postings didn't add up. If I'm wrong, then I'm sorry. Good luck to you.

[quickfix]

There goes the next director of the CIA.

[Chuckles]

I thought I recognized your style.

[George W. Maschke]

I have a BIG CORRECTION to make.  I apologize for this in advance and sorry for any trouble I caused.  In my original posts, I claimed  that I was caught using CMs on "Control Questions" for pre-employment with a top secret government agency.  I had kept a personal journal of my recruitment process where I documented everything that occured, then stashed it away for some time.  I have just dug this journal up out of my clutter and discovered something.  The questions that I was asked on my polygraph WERE NOT CONTROL QUESTIONS, they were IRRELEVANT QUESTIONS as classified in TLBTLD book on this site.  I didn't realize this at first but after re-reading TLBTLD, I noticed this.  Therefore, I had been using the breathing method of CMs on the Irrelevant Questions, not Control Questions which are non-existent in this polygraph session.  I bet that by me using breathing CMs at the wrong time (TLBTLD says they should be used during control questions, not irrelevant questions), that I screwed myself.  This is likely the reason for my failure of the polygraph.  Well, I admit this mistake.  I recommend everyone reading TLBTLD thorougly  before you take a poly so you don't make the same mistake I did.  Anyway, I'm sorry for the confusion.  I used breating CMs at the wrong time and I screwed myself.   I have more faith in this website now.  I was busted due to only to my negligence.

Thank you for posting this clarification. Your subsequent post, however, is entirely inappropriate and an egregious violation of AntiPolygraph.org's posting policy. Under normal circumstances, it would be removed to the Discarded Posts forum. However, given the controversy that this message thread has engendered, it seems appropriate to leave it here so that readers may form their own judgments.

To All,

I do not assume that "busted" is a polygrapher trolling the forum. While such behavior is not without precedent, it does not seem to me that busted's postings in this thread are an example of such.

[Sergeant1107]

George,

Since "busted" is a guest registration, is it possible for the the messages posted under that screen name to be from different posters?

Can one person register as a guest, using the name "busted" at one time, and then days or weeks later another person register as a guest using the same screen name?

Just curious...

[Bill_Brown]

Mr. Maschke,

Your explanation for Busted is commendable.  I would suggest someone trained in LSA review the posts and proffer an opinion also. 

Also, can you please remove the picture, it is offensive to me personally.  Thank you for your consideration. 

[George W. Maschke]

Sergeant1107,

Yes, it is possible for anyone to post as a guest and choose the name "busted." However, I have compelling reason to believe that all posts by "busted" in this thread are from the same person.

Bill,

Please, call me George. I also find the picture offensive. However, given the controversy this thread has engendered, I'm hesitant to modify busted's post in any way. If you're using Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome, you can use the free Adblock Plus extension to block the image.

[Bill_Brown]

George,

Thank you for the information regarding blocking the image above.  It is a violation of treatment rules for persons in SOV treatment to view an image like this.  I did notice Chuckles posted and this would violate his treatment and may place he and others in his situation in jeopardy.