3rd CIA Poly

[AngryinNY]

Hi Everyone,
Just thought I'd share my experience and see what you guys think. I recently had my 3rd CIA polygraph... The first 2 didn't go so well, but since they continued with the background investigation, I figured I had done well enough to pass. However, many months later, when I thought my clearance would finally be wrapping up, they called me and told me I needed to come in for another polygraph! I was extremely upset, but decided to go... Also, I had read this website (and told them so at the test), but didn't use any countermeasures, as I was under the impression that the CIA usually doesn't fail people for poly results alone...(and I had nothing to hide, so I decided to just take it normally...) Well, it went terribly. We only went over "counterintelligence questions", and from the very start, they accused me of "manipulating the test", and being deceptive... though they wouldn't provide me any details about either. Basically, they accused me of being a spy. However, they wouldn't go so far as to say I had definitely failed. I haven't heard the official results, but assume they won't be good. Maybe I SHOULD have used countermeasures--but it was definitely intimidating the way they kept accusing me of manipulation! Anyone have a similar experience with this agency?

[False +]

AngryinNY,

Just read the personal statements on this site and you'll see that experiences of the sort you describe can be fairly typical for CIA.

[George W. Maschke]

AngryinNY,

Your experience seems to be not unlike that of Maureen Lenihan, mentioned at p. 124 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.

How did you come under the impression that "the CIA usually doesn't fail people for poly results alone?" The available evidence leads me to the opposite conclusion.

[Twoblock]

AngryinNY

At the risk of sounding like a broke record, I will say one more time - "when you people, who desire to work for the feds, gets kicked in the ass (by them) enough maybe you will start filing lawsuits to make them prove their accusations".  From what I have read on these boards, those tags are going to follow you into every LE job that you apply for. Anyone, especially LE, who accuses me of being a spy, druggie, etc., is either going to get his lights punched out or be made to prove it in a court of law. Maybe both. I have always said "If you roll over and play dead, someone is going to throw dirt in your face".

[Neo]

Hi Everyone,
Basically, they accused me of being a spy.

Did they actually use this terminology or did they indicate you had only responded physiologically to that particular question?

[Ya Hoo]

AngryinNY:

How many months between your 2nd and 3rd poly? I took my 2nd poly in April 03.

When should I expect to hear from them?

[AngryinNY]

In response to your questions... they didn't say precisely "you are a spy", but they did say that I was obviously concealing something regarding espionage. It may have just been some kind of stress test to see how I would react--I'm really not sure yet. Also, in response to Ya Hoo--there was a full year between my 2nd and 3rd polygraphs, so I recommend you don't sit around waiting for an answer!