A Polygraph Failure

Started by George W. Maschke, Oct 26, 2002, 02:29 PM

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beech trees

Users george and eastwood-- separated at birth, or one and the same? You be the judge.
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." ~ Thomas Paine

Seeker

Do we further give attention to this TROLL?

AN American Girl

QuoteThats pretty funny "ALL AMERICAN GIRL" that someone would even mention AMERICAN to a guy that dosn't even live in the greatest country in the world. Is there a reason for that??

Lower case george:

If you would look again, it's "AN American Girl," not ALL American Girl.  My choice of name was simply an allusion to the lyrics of the Tom Petty song (American Girl.)  You should listen to the song some time, and stop making assumptions.  If you are a pro-polygraph person, you are only hurting your cause by jumping to conclusions.

QuoteAs for the comment on his voice, as with that of Dr. Drew C. Richardson, it conveys a highly authoratative and level-headed person.  If that is sexy, then I suppose George and Drew should consider becoming the Calendar Boys for Antipolygraph.org...

You are right, Seeking boy, Drew has a nice voice too.  Bring on the calendar!

A.A.G.




Seeker

Well, I am a woman, but the calendar would prove to illicit some great funding I am sure.
ROTFLMAO

An American Girl

Sorry Seeker, my mistake.  The voice-calendar-as-a-fund-raiser would do well with articulate and reasonable women such as yourself speaking too. A month with the voice of the 34 year old feisty Beech Trees would also be of interest.  

May you find what you seek,

A.A.G.

Skeptic


Quote from: george on Oct 27, 2002, 12:00 PM
Thats pretty funny "ALL AMERICAN GIRL" that someone would even mention AMERICAN to a guy that dosn't even live in the greatest country in the world. Is there a reason for that??

>YAWN<

Poor george.  He's likely a polygraph screener who might have to make an honest living thanks to the efforts of Antipolygraph.org, the National Academy of Sciences and others.  He's just frustrated and lashing out.

Perhaps someone can recommend a good career counsellor for him?

Skeptic

Seeker

tsk..tsk...this has been given too much attention....distracting from more pressing matters....


disgusted

Seeker, aka Jasmine Ibrahim, or whomever you are,

Such pressing matters?  Enough already. 27 posts since the 19th of October, and all you've managed to do is mimic every other failed polygraph sniveller on this web site.   And what's with the cat you added on Sunday?  Trying to emulate George's lion?  In your posts you've admitted to being "an information slut" or a "snitch" (snitches are the lowest life form on this planet) a divorcee from the Middle East (odd thing) who has failed two polygraphs, therefore are squirming away from a "Bureau Boy" FBI polygraph although advised by your attorney to take it.  You claim to be a 35 year old student passing out petitions for the antipolygraph cause and that you worked for the State department and wore a wire to your 2 previous polygraphs; done by "corrupt cops."  Such a busy woman.  So many pressing issues. If you really are in Roanoke Virginia, GO HOME.  Quit refering to the LE system as "ours," the nation as "ours" and the citizens belonging to this nation "ours."   Put a veil over your snitching slut face and get the hell out of America. Go join George in the Netherlands;(if that's where he really is) you seem to have quickly become his toady.  Your zeal to disparage your host country is tiring.   >:(
 

George W. Maschke

"Disgusted,"

I'm disgusted, too: by the hateful, bigoted diatribe you've posted here. Neither Seeker, I, nor anyone else here need you to tell us what it means to be an American.
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Quote from: disgusted on Oct 28, 2002, 11:15 AM
Seeker, aka Jasmine Ibrahim, or whomever you are,

Such pressing matters?  Enough already. 27 posts since the 19th of October, and all you've managed to do is mimic every other failed polygraph sniveller on this web site.   And what's with the cat you added on Sunday?  Trying to emulate George's lion?  In your posts you've admitted to being "an information slut" or a "snitch" (snitches are the lowest life form on this planet) a divorcee from the Middle East (odd thing) who has failed two polygraphs, therefore are squirming away from a "Bureau Boy" FBI polygraph although advised by your attorney to take it.  You claim to be a 35 year old student passing out petitions for the antipolygraph cause and that you worked for the State department and wore a wire to your 2 previous polygraphs; done by "corrupt cops."  Such a busy woman.  So many pressing issues. If you really are in Roanoke Virginia, GO HOME.  Quit refering to the LE system as "ours," the nation as "ours" and the citizens belonging to this nation "ours."   Put a veil over your snitching slut face and get the hell out of America. Go join George in the Netherlands;(if that's where he really is) you seem to have quickly become his toady.  Your zeal to disparage your host country is tiring.   >:(


To the casual reader:
Think about what it would mean to have to take a subjective polygraph with the above person as your polygrapher.  Either disgusted or little george (assuming they're not the same person), with the demonstrated mental acuity of "Jackass" stars and emotional balance of the Beltway Sniper, could be a lynchpin in our nation's security apparatus.

And if that doesn't scare you into supporting the abolishment of polygraph screening, I don't know what will.

Skeptic

Twoblock

Disgusted,

Re: Your quote "snitches are the lowest life form on this planet".

I assume you are in LE. When you people use "snitches" to gather information/evidence on someone that you are after, do you believe you are putting yourself on their level of life form. I do. Most of your snitches are lying excons. You have no right to belittle anyone for the same practice that you employ.

Draw it in and go write a speeding ticket.

Question for Seeker

Seeker stated
QuoteI have take two polygraphs in the past, both of which I failed miserably allthough I told the truth.  Or, at least that was what I was told.
My past experiences were with a State agency.  I was given the thumbs up by my handlers with this poly from the FBI.  I got the stories of how qualified the Bureau polygraphers were, and how easy this would all be.  
I don't want to say much about the particulars, but I am an information slut...a snitch.  The poly is "supposedly" being requested by the "Powers that Be" and not by my handlers.  Either way, I am uncomfortable with the whole test idea.  The two that I had taken earlier involved corrupt officers.  I was told that I lied, and that I failed.  Amazing that within a month after the polygraphs, the cops were fired.  In an effort to prove my reliability, I recorded them with wires that had been previously provided to me by the State agency.

Let me get this straight.  You recorded cops by misusing government property in order to prove your reliability???.  Sounds like snitch mentality to me.  And what happened to the recordings?  Were they admissable in court?  

Seeker

lowercase george, disgusted, and question:
I used VA State Police provided equipment to do exactly what they asked me to do.
If you are cop, as opposed to criminal, or perhaps even both, then you know that informants sign an agreement to record THEIR conversations.  The legality of it is that I consent to the recording, and you -  the one being investigated - are subject to those recordings without your knowledge.  
I was recruited for the very purpose to which I employed the wires and recording devices.  What happened to the recordings?  They were placed in the IAD files of the corrupt officers, who subsequently were fired.  I was sent to record these officers by IAD, and when the reality of exactly who were the corrupt ones came to light, the polygraphs were requested.  This is, as you should know as criminal, cop, or both, standard procedure to ensure (through a fraudulent guise for an interrogation without the benefit of legal counsel) that all information available is extracted from someone.
Snitch mentality?  Well, perhaps, but it was the subject of the investigations that I was recruited for, and obviously I was deemed Highly Reliable since years later, the feds came to recruit me.  
As cop, criminal, or both, you know that without good sources (the cop terminology for a snitch), the majority of crimes would go unsolved.  

George W. Maschke

To return to the original topic of this thread (Bill Richardson's advocacy of polygraphy and it's potential effect on the New Mexico gubernatorial election), it's curious to note that the RichardsonforGovernor.com website cites among his accompl
ishments
for labor the following:

"Voted to ban the use of polygraph exams by most private employers."

The reference is to the former congressman's support for the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act. Bill Richardson's website fails to mention his cynical advocacy of polygraph screening at the national laboratories.
George W. Maschke
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