The Truth Verifier

[pailryder]

Ark

It is the quality, not the quantity, of your posting that impresses me.

The Truth Verifier would need to detect bullshit as well as deceptive misrepresentation.



Coldhearted orb that rules the night
removes the colors from our sight
red is gray and yellow white
but We decide which is right
and which is an illusion.


Moodys Days of Future Past 

[Ex Member]

Thanks Pailryder, I was hoping you were still around. That's an interesting twist, to detect spin, the most cunning deception, as well as the absolute truth.

Brave Helios, wake up your steeds
Bring the warmth the countryside needs

[pailryder]

It is impossible for someone to lie unless he thinks he knows the truth.  Producing bullshit requires no such conviction.  A person who lies is thereby responding to the truth, and he is to that extent respectful of it.  When an honest man speaks, he says only what he believes to be true; and for the liar, it is correspondingly indispensable that he considers his statements to be false.  For the bullshiter, however, all bets are off: he is neither on the side of the true nor on the side of the false.  His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his getting away with what he says.  He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly.  He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose.

Harry G. Frankfort    On Bullshit

[Ex Member]

His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his getting away with what he says.  He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly.  He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose.

Interesting, so the bullshitter is not so much as liar as he is a random noise generator.

[Dan Mangan]

His eye is not on the facts at all, as the eyes of the honest man and the liar are, except insofar as they may be pertinent to his getting away with what he says.  He does not care whether the things he says describe reality correctly.  He just picks them out, or makes them up, to suit his purpose.

This is a most apt description of your garden variety sex offender.

In my PCSOT experience, it's not so much white noise as it is a smokescreen.

[pailryder]

Yes Ark

But not random noise, the spin doctor strives for truthy noise.

I don't recall the attribution but father advises son, "Never tell a lie when you can get by with bullshit."

[Ex Member]

"Never tell a lie when you can bullshit your way through it"

Eric Ambler, Dirty Story