What is the standard testing format in sex offender polygraphs?

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If you are going to a individual theripist that says you are not mentally capable of passing a polygraph can your probation officer still make you take it

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pailryder

No, Twoblock, I am not Public Servant, but best wishes on your retirement and travels.
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pailryder

Thanks. I will keep physically active because I can't let these old bones and muscles deteriorate so I'm still in the gym pumping iron and riding my bike when the weather is good. May want to climb a couple more mountains before I cash out.

abusedbygov

I'm new on here but was just notified that I am to take a polygraph and make a "full sexual disclosure" lolz. Jesus, these people are out of their fucking minds!!! "Did I ever plan with someone to dig up a grave and ABUSE A CORPSE??" "Have I ever DELIBERATELY masturbated to fantasies of pre pubescent children?" (How does one 'accidently' masturbate?).
"Do I have sex with DEAD ANIMALS!!!!!" My 'crime' was bullshitting with some lying dog on the internet who was bullshitting me. Evidently, they are allowed, whilst I am held to a higher standard. I am nervous as hell and have no good feeling about the outcome of this "test".

stefano

Quote from: abusedbygov on Jun 07, 2011, 04:33 PMMy 'crime' was bullshitting with some lying dog on the internet who was bullshitting me. Evidently, they are allowed
I'm curious to know what you mean by this. Are you referring to one of those lazy cops that cannot get up off their asses to catch real criminals in the street and have to pose as 13 year olds online to catch Iowa corn farmers who want to talk dirty?

abusedbygov

Quote from: stefano on Jun 08, 2011, 12:25 AMI'm curious to know what you mean by this. Are you referring to one of those lazy cops that cannot get up off their asses to catch real criminals in the street and have to pose as 13 year olds online to catch Iowa corn farmers who want to talk dirty? 


Oh yes indeedy, my perspicacious friend. Only, in my case, it went a whole lot deeper. It was the owner of perverted-justice.com, NOT a cop, just a wild-eyed fanatical Jesus loving GAWD fearing jizzbone. I knew it wasn't a 13 yr. old, and THEY knew I knew it wasn't a 13 yr. old, yet they tracked me down and boom! That was it.

My question, though, is this: I am federal (the computer made it federal jurisdiction)--are these pre-tests (and, by inference, the upcoming polygraph) case-specific? Or are they standardized? Has anyone else been through these kinds of inane, ludicrous, moronic tests??

The questions are absurd. "Have I ever been to a strip club?" Really? If you say 'yes', then you must explain. Uhh, well, gorgeous naked young women writhing like reptilian goddesses in my lap?? Is THAT a good explanation?? I'm thinkin if they NEED an explanation, they ain't gonna get the idea, y'know?

Oh, here's a classic!! "Have you ever pleaded, begged, paid or otherwise coerced a woman to have sex??????????? Yeah. Are paying and begging the same thing? Really? Once again, answer 'yes' and I must explain.
"Uhh, the one with the vagina gets to decide when, how, with whom and IF sex will happen. The one with the penis begs, pleads, snivels, whines, wheedles cajoles, farts and tapdances and MAYBE gets some.

I'm sorry, who's the pervert?

stefano

Quote from: abusedbygov on Jun 08, 2011, 04:59 PMNOT a cop, just a wild-eyed fanatical Jesus loving GAWD fearing jizzbone. 
I know where you are coming from, but IMHO, Jesus would be just as disgusted with their antics.

Bill_Brown

Quote from: abusedbygov on Jun 07, 2011, 04:33 PM"full sexual disclosure"


I think you answered your own question with your question.  Full Sexual Disclosure is not event specific.  It is full disclosure. 

antipolygraphrso

Quote from: stefano on Apr 18, 2011, 02:30 PM
Quote from: pailryder on Apr 16, 2011, 07:03 AMantipolygraphrso

Certainly, there are standards. Calibration and other standards can be found at the web site of the American Society of Testing and Materials (ASTM).
It's a misnomer to state that polygraphists calibrate their instruments. They only check to see if they are within the manufacturer's specifications. Calibration requires setting the parameters to an established known standard; this is usually done by a technician who knows how to make the amplifier gain adjustments.

Also, since the measurements made with the polygraph instruments are not quantitative, precise calibration is not crucial.

My father works with quite a few engineers that will tell you it's quack science. He even contacted my PO (at the time I was on probation) to get the 'standards' in question, to which there was no response.

antipolygraphrso

Quote from: abusedbygov on Jun 07, 2011, 04:33 PMI'm new on here but was just notified that I am to take a polygraph and make a "full sexual disclosure" lolz. Jesus, these people are out of their fucking minds!!! "Did I ever plan with someone to dig up a grave and ABUSE A CORPSE??" "Have I ever DELIBERATELY masturbated to fantasies of pre pubescent children?" (How does one 'accidently' masturbate?).
"Do I have sex with DEAD ANIMALS!!!!!" My 'crime' was bullshitting with some lying dog on the internet who was bullshitting me. Evidently, they are allowed, whilst I am held to a higher standard. I am nervous as hell and have no good feeling about the outcome of this "test".

You should have seen some of the questions on the 'prescreen questionarre' thingy I did before I was even sentenced.

Corpse fucking? Really?

Also the 'Abel' test. lol, some of the questions.

"Is a womans urinary tract in her vagina?' (or something of that nature).

Heh, considering the fact I don't sleep with women, the only response I could make was 'Why don't you go get an anatomy book and tell me, or let me find out here, kthxbye.'

antipolygraphrso

Quote from: abusedbygov on Jun 08, 2011, 04:59 PM
Quote from: stefano on Jun 08, 2011, 12:25 AMI'm curious to know what you mean by this. Are you referring to one of those lazy cops that cannot get up off their asses to catch real criminals in the street and have to pose as 13 year olds online to catch Iowa corn farmers who want to talk dirty? 


Oh yes indeedy, my perspicacious friend. Only, in my case, it went a whole lot deeper. It was the owner of perverted-justice.com, NOT a cop, just a wild-eyed fanatical Jesus loving GAWD fearing jizzbone. I knew it wasn't a 13 yr. old, and THEY knew I knew it wasn't a 13 yr. old, yet they tracked me down and boom! That was it.

My question, though, is this: I am federal (the computer made it federal jurisdiction)--are these pre-tests (and, by inference, the upcoming polygraph) case-specific? Or are they standardized? Has anyone else been through these kinds of inane, ludicrous, moronic tests??

The questions are absurd. "Have I ever been to a strip club?" Really? If you say 'yes', then you must explain. Uhh, well, gorgeous naked young women writhing like reptilian goddesses in my lap?? Is THAT a good explanation?? I'm thinkin if they NEED an explanation, they ain't gonna get the idea, y'know?

Oh, here's a classic!! "Have you ever pleaded, begged, paid or otherwise coerced a woman to have sex??????????? Yeah. Are paying and begging the same thing? Really? Once again, answer 'yes' and I must explain.
"Uhh, the one with the vagina gets to decide when, how, with whom and IF sex will happen. The one with the penis begs, pleads, snivels, whines, wheedles cajoles, farts and tapdances and MAYBE gets some.

I'm sorry, who's the pervert?

Xavier Von Erck?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverted-Justice

Yea, I've heard of PJ. Also, you should have seen how Wikipedia treated him. He actually got into some 'flame war' with them over what was being posted.

Ahhh, yes, here it is...

http://www.corrupted-justice.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10897&sid=03fc106a3b6bd1083e502ce7d6730a8d

Wiki nailed him because Wikipedia was a 'haven for teh pedoz.'

That guy is slime, and the worst part is, if I ever came across him, I would wipe the floor with his fucking Mountain Dew chugging fat ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjwtmw_sAk0

Thats a Youtube of him.

mark

i have a girl i like a lot and my po wants me to wait till we meet i have not been in trouble in a long time welll since prison and i reallly want to meet this girl not see one picture of her when do you think my po will let me see her and trust this good for me ? :(

Ex Member

Mark, following the instructions of your PO is more important than meeting a girl. Focus on getting your life and personal act together before adding a relationship to the equation. IMHO.

shane sawyer

If you are going to a individual theripist that says you are not mentally capable of passing a polygraph can your probation officer still make you take it 

George W. Maschke

QuoteIf you are going to a individual theripist that says you are not mentally capable of passing a polygraph can your probation officer still make you take it 

The law governing post-conviction polygraph screening varies from state to state. It would be best to consult with a local attorney with experience in criminal defense law on this question.
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