Not finding the help I need here

Started by Ronald, Apr 11, 2008, 10:01 PM

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Ronald

Wow, well needless to say I'm disappointed.  I've asked questions on different countermeasures and why they didn't work on my last 'test', and the effect of drugs on the test, etc., and really haven't found any worthwhile responses that actually address the issues I've put forth.  

Seems like everyone here has an agenda they push whenever any topic comes up.  They're attempting to give unasked-for advice on matters the OP may have thought of already.  And that does the OP no good at all.

I sense a lot of fear and anger on this board, and not a lot of help.  'Help' means trusting the asker enough to assume he knows what he's talking about and his questions aren't misguided.  If you assume the person you're "helping" doesn't know what he's doing and needs to be steered in a completely different direction, well, you ain't helping.

Guess I'm on my own!

T.M. Cullen

#1
Ronald,

I am beginning to suspect you are a polygrapher.


TC
"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University

Twoblock

TC

I think you're right. Now watch for abrasive snippets to follow.

pailryder

Mr Cullen

I doubt Ronald is an actual polygraph examiner, more likely he is Mr Grogan. shamelessly self promoting yet again.
No good social purpose can be served by inventing ways of beating the lie detector or deceiving polygraphers.   David Thoreson Lykken

nopolycop

"Although the degree of reliability of polygraph evidence may depend upon a variety of identifiable factors, there is simply no way to know in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's Conclusion is accurate, because certain doubts and uncertainties plague even the best polygraph exams."  (Justice Clarence Thomas writing in United States v. Scheffer, 523 U.S. 303, 118 S.Ct. 1261, 140 L.Ed.2d 413, 1998.)

sackett

Ronald,

you have to remember this board is filled with angry false positive "victims" and if you fail to rise to their level of anger and attack on the polygraph as a whole, YOU will be villified as either a polygrapher secretly trying to cause problems or some other imposter.  All because you're not frothing at the mouth.

So much for getting honest answers, huh?!

Sackett

T.M. Cullen

#6
QuoteI think you're right. Now watch for abrasive snippets to follow.

I think it's patrick coffey (aka "TNLG4U).

Note the back to back, long winded, incoherent posts.  Little use of paragraphs.

TC
"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University

notguilty1

#7
Quote from: RonStein on Apr 12, 2008, 02:32 PMRonald,

you have to remember this board is filled with angry false positive "victims" and if you fail to rise to their level of anger and attack on the polygraph as a whole, YOU will be villified as either a polygrapher secretly trying to cause problems or some other imposter.  All because you're not frothing at the mouth.

So much for getting honest answers, huh?!

Sackett

Sackett
Nice to see you back here again I missed your ingnorant self serving comments.
I must say though you are consistent ...........
I just hope that some day you too will be the victim of a false positive. I know you don't or better, cannot allow yourself to belive that it happens all the time. But... I does and,  if the time came that you too would be a victim of it you will see.
You give me the chance to repeat the facts. Polygraph tests DO NOT DETECT LIES !!!! OR DECEPTION IF YOU LIKE.



pailryder

No good social purpose can be served by inventing ways of beating the lie detector or deceiving polygraphers.   David Thoreson Lykken

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