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Aug 3rd, 2020 at 4:01pm
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Not sure what to do here.  Is this the “concealed control”?  CM on first and last?

1. Do you intend to tell the truth
2. Irrelevant 
3.relevant
4. Irrelevant 
5. Relevant
6 relevant 
7 irrelevant
8 relevant 
9 are you scared I’ll ask you something else 
10 have you answered truthfully (or alternatively - did you lie on this polygraph)
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 3rd, 2020 at 4:43pm
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Could you tell me as many of the questions as you specifically remember, and how you have categorized them?
  

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Reply #2 - Aug 3rd, 2020 at 5:04pm
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Put it in chat
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 12th, 2020 at 11:07pm
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I am in Canada and going through a polygraph program.   

The instructors say that you can always detect when someone is using countermeasures.  Is that true in all cases?
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 13th, 2020 at 12:31am
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You are being misinformed.  Research shows identifying manipulation individuals with hands on training are difficult to detect. it is not impossible but difficult. those who just read about them are like fish in a barrel if the examiner follows the rules.  sounds like in you should be concerned about your training
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 13th, 2020 at 3:57am
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I am in Canada and going through a polygraph program.  

The instructors say that you can always detect when someone is using countermeasures.  Is that true in all cases?



It's rarely true. If a polygraph subject employs, say, gross physical movements, a sensor pad might detect that. However, the polygraph community has no coherent methodology for detecting sophisticated polygraph countermeasures, that is, the kind that anyone who understands polygraph procedure would employ. You'll find such countermeasures explained in Chapter 4 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.

"gfd's" remark that "those who just read about [countermeasures] are like fish in a barrel if the examiner follows the rules" is unsupported by any published research.
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 13th, 2020 at 1:05pm
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The other place to get your answer to your CM question is from the Canadian Association of Police Polygraphists.   
CM methods are not covered into later in the class.

Go to www.canadapolygraph.ca. ; Your instructors have to be members of this organization to even teach in Canada.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 14th, 2020 at 2:59am
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Another source to consult is the American Polygraph Association in bordering US states.   

In some cases members in NY, VT and WA state members  consult and know his/her Canadian counterparts. 

While the Canadians  have a good association, the APA in the USA is a plethora of good  information for all things polygraph.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 14th, 2020 at 12:31pm
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the "technique" looks like Relevant Irrelevant to me.  R/I has a 50% false positive rate. outcome largely based on        impressions rather than data
  
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