did he just use the term "steet cred"?

Joe, my brother, let's get real.

The polygraph indu$try doesn't give a flying fornication about your travails in the great state of Texas.

From what I've observed, the "dedicated to truth" polygraph indu$try cares mostly about one thing: MONEY -- as in filthy lucre.

You want justice? 

Forget about it.

IMHO, in the halls of justice, the only justice is in the halls.

Expect nothing from the indu$try, because that's exactly what you'll get. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Capiche?

Also, Joe, as a PCSOT specialist, please tell us what you think of this "revoltin' development"....

https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2016/05/15/federal-appeals-court-rules-certain-ma...

OK, in reference to the post from this link

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1465505671

I have to admit, I am pretty conflicted how to respond to this one, or to a group of examiners posting my home on this message board, on another string.  

I also can't say I am really comfortable with the thought that someone has been clearly following me to my office, as one can see with the street names listed on the above linked post. I find it a wee unnerving that I am actually being stalked, and that the only likely pool of suspects, includes current or former law enforcement.  

So how am I to respond?  I have put great thought into this, and I think, what someone in TAPE is hoping for, is that I take proactive measures and make the first physical move.  I am not the only one who has voiced this theory.  

Fact is, the way this has escalated over the years, and in the past year, TAPE, and establishment examiners within TAPE, have gotten away with every unethical and illegal thing that has been done. If one were to look at the post linked above, and the post someone made earlier this year, they are far more likely to act out violently than I am.  This is obvious, I am being stalked.  They posted my home and my travel route to work.  How should this make me feel safe?

Is that what it's going to take?  Is it going to take one of these chuckleheads to actually do something stupid, thinking they'll get away with it?  Only to have people at the top of the industry to say, "we had no idea it was going to come to this."  

The industry is in denial.  The professional organizations are in denial.  Of course even if they did ask, I would only hear something lame like, "we asked everyone and they denied it."  Yea ask Noah Webster, TAPE's lawyer during the lawsuit, how that works.  Because that is what they told him until we got the identity to lieguytoo, who was a officer of TAPE, was discovered.  They all denied it to him too. Lied straight to his face; until the subpoena came back.  Oh and BTW, know why I have no trust in the justice system with this?  Judge Evans let the people involved get away with that incident too.  

This has been the past 8 years of my life.  TAPE, and the bad actors within, get a pass; while I get practically hung financially, emotionally, and brought before ethics committees, for telling the truth, and about Maria and TAPE's BS and outright lies.  Hell, I'll probably be brought up for an ethics complaint, just for posting this.  

Fact is, if I tried to address this privately, I would be ignored; and my concerns would be belittled and marginalized.  Just as my concerns have in the past.  I'm sure I'll get into trouble for saying that too, but that has been happening.  The industry would rather wait for something to actually happen to me, then they will pretend they were concerned.  Even my wife has seen the indifference within the industry to question these people's actions or intent.  She's never seen anything like it.  

Fact is, not one person, other than Dan Megan, has shown any concern for my life and safety.  He has even offered a cash reward for answers.  Even with the disagreements we have, he offered to pay his own cash money for answers; the industry is building the wall of silence and indifference.  The one examiner who is trying to actively destroy the polygraph industry, cares more than people who claim to want to protect the integrity of this industry.  If something were to happen to me, people in the industry would care more about sweeping this under the rug, than any thought that they did nothing to try to stop it.  Shame on all of you.  

The industry needs to reel these people in down here in Texas in somehow, before someone gets hurt.  I am begging for intervention before I take the next step to respond to the post on the APA election thread.  And here is my response.

I will be posting the home addresses as well, and I will start at the top.  What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.  Someone knows something, and I want who this was so they can be held responsible and accountable.  Someone took this way too far.  I draw the line at stalking me and posting my home and my movements (phrasing).  Now that someone in TAPE took it to that line, and I don't hear TAPE condemning it, I assume, posting home addresses is now acceptable.  It's something I don't want to do, and I wish there were better options.  Having said that, TAPE and Maria Hubbard are writing the rules.  

My war has always been a war of words and of the truth.  Theirs is now a war of stalking and threats of violence.  How far is the industry really willing to let this go before something really bad happens?  

Isn't stalking and threatening someone enough for you people to start becoming concerned?  Or do you people want to get the popcorn and see if lieguy8 will have a "falling down moment."

I waz going to knock.

This is better.   

Did she kick you out?

Not making enough to keep her happy?

It'll only get worse.

Do the right thing.

We already know you tried.

Maybe you'll get it right next time.

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Aye, you should have knocked.  We could have gone down the street for wings and talk it out.  As usual, you people choose the cowards way out.  Uhg how typical.

For a group of big bad Texans, you sure seem scared of looking an insignificant yankee in the eye; or maybe, I'm not all that insignificant.  You people are spending a lot of time and effort trying to intimidate me.

So what is the plan, to troll me into having a "falling down" moment?  Ugh, when will you people learn that this is simply not going to happen.  All the years people were predicting this outcome, and it simply hasn't happened.  One would think you people would have got the idea by now.  Moreover, and with all due respect, I'm not the one stalking you till all the wee hours of the day and night.  Seems the only people who are most likely to engage in such a dangerous and violent scenario would be whomever is doing this from TAPE.   

Sorry, just calling it how I see it.  TAPE will deny it, but they denied lieguytoo also, so their credibility in this area, is nonexistent if one were to look at their history of involvement in using tis tactic.

Are you hoping I will feel threatened, and hurt someone in self defense?  Is that really something you want?  There is no way either of us come out the winner on that scenario; surely you must see this. If not, please seek professional help.

Or, from what you seem to allude, you want me to do something harmful to myself.  How do you think that makes you look?

In any case, an awful lot of trouble and effort seems to be put into silence me, either by, encouraging me to harm myself or others.  This seems silly, when the solution is much easier, and frankly, more beneficial, to all concerned.   

Anyway, I must have said something right for someone to go through such great efforts to intimidate me; wish I knew what, exactly it was.

Can I make a suggestion?  Next time, knock.  If nothing else, ya get a free meal out of it, and no one gets hurt.  How is that bad?

Joe, my brother, know this:

Should I prevail in my race for president-elect of the "dedicated to truth" American Polygraph Association, upon my swearing in, I will immediately call for a full investigation into the situation you have so aptly described.

I promise you, Joe, the business meeting -- and banquet --  at the APA national shindig in Baltimore will be nothing like they have ever seen. 

We need to call out the fakers and opportuni$t$.

On top of that, should I win, your plight will be the focus of my initial column in the APA magazine -- and many more columns over the next three years.

Whoever your lieguy# torturer is, that person will be found out -- and dealt with accordingly.