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Re: Is It a Crime to Provide or Receive Polygraph Countermeasure Training?
Reply #60 - Sep 13th, 2013 at 12:40am
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I think judges should be polygraphed every five years regarding bribes, corruption and malfeasance.  If they flunk, disbar them.
  
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Reply #61 - Sep 14th, 2013 at 7:26am
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All of the publicly available court documents associated with the Dixon case, including the 6 September sentencing hearing, are now available here:

https://antipolygraph.org/litigation.shtml#dixon

Curiously, the docket sheet (attached) indicates that a secret filing (Doc. No. 21) was made shortly before the sentencing hearing. There is no indication of what party made the submission or what it's about. It is described only as "Sealed Document."

In addition, a filing was made on the day of sentencing (Doc. 24) that is not available to the public, but only to the "Applicable Party."

Any ideas what these filings might be?

It seems to me that there may be newsworthy details of the Dixon case that are being withheld from the public. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who could shed light on this.
  

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Details of the May 2013 Entrapment Attempt
Reply #62 - Nov 3rd, 2013 at 6:56pm
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I mentioned in an earlier post that in May of this year, I was the target of an attempted entrapment. Marisa Taylor mentions this toward the end of her 16 August 2013 article, "Seeing threats, feds target instructors of polygraph-beating methods."

I have today posted a detailed account of that entrapment attempt, which may be of interest:

https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2013/11/03/an-attempted-entrapment/
  

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Reply #63 - Nov 3rd, 2013 at 8:00pm
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George, the ISP for that IP Address is Tarinnet. Perhaps they have an abuse program in place where you could file a complaint or at least ask for details, maybe a small gratuity would loosen some tongues.

http://www.tarinnet.info/

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Telephone: 0750-4183060
  
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Reply #64 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 1:30am
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Just to let folks know, I used information from Doug Williams (though I never personally saw Doug) and from George Maschke's TLBTLD and I was able to LIE AND BEAT MY POLYGRAPH.  That's right.  I used the mental countermeasures where I would do arithmetic in my head (or think about an exciting sports event, or some good dirty porn) to generate responses on the questions that were not relevant.  Simple.  I was also very calm and respectful and told the polygrapher that I had no intent of using countermeasures and that I had nothing to hide.  I didn't even crack under their silly interrogation procedure.

I used CMs and passed, and got hired.  This was for a 3-letter agency.  I was not caught in any of these Operation Lie Buster stings or anything.  I know many other people who have lied and used CMs and passed as well.  We joke about the whole process and the pussies who fall for it and start telling all of their business, things the polygrapher would have never found out about in the first place. The fact is, mental countermeasures are not detectable because you can't read someone's brain. lol.  You may be able to detect breathing anomalies by the pneumatic tubes on the machine, or tongue biting if you watch closely, or butt-squeezing with the seat sensor that is now used....but mental countermeasures work great and are undetectable.   

Thank you Doug and George.

By the way George, since you are only the "Co-Founder" of this site, who is/are the other Co-Founder(s)?  I never hear their named mentioned around these parks, what has become of them?  And who is Gino J. Scalabrini, the other author on TLBTLD?

  
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Re: Is It a Crime to Provide or Receive Polygraph Countermeasure Training?
Reply #65 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 11:14am
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poly beater,

Thanks for sharing your polygraph experience. I note that you posted the same text in another thread (which we discourage), where I have responded to your question.
  

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Chad Dixon Begins Prison Sentence
Reply #66 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 11:20am
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On 4 November 2013, Chad Dixon reported to the minimum security federal prison camp at Marion, Illinois to begin serving an eight-month sentence for teaching polygraph countermeasures. He can receive letters at:

Chad Dixon, 81406-083
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P.O. Box 1000
Marion, Illinois 62959
  

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Reply #67 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 9:44pm
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Sorry about that George.  The other thread is where I wanted to post, and thanks for replying there.  I wasn't able to delete my post here in this thread.  Actually, you can delete my above post in this thread (along with your reply to it, and this post as well, so there are no duplicates).
  
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Reply #68 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 9:47pm
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No worries! We can let existing posts stand as they are.
  

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Reply #69 - Nov 15th, 2013 at 11:17pm
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George and Doug,

I read about this "lie detector" list from MCClatchy newspaper. The best way to deal with this is to emphasize the fact that thousands and thousands of people have already accessed ways to ensure a true reading on the poly. 
George -- about how many people would you say have downloaded your book from this site?
Doug -- same question, how many have bought your book? I saw your comment on the McClatchy newspaper web page that you entered it into the public/congressional record back in the 1980s, so tens of thousands of people have read it. How many have bought it from your webpage?

Keep at it. I think the American public is starting to realize that the polygraph is not true science.
  
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Reply #70 - Nov 16th, 2013 at 12:00am
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Terence441,
I'm curious to know your reason for wanting such specific numbers?
  
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Reply #71 - Nov 16th, 2013 at 12:39am
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If say 1,000,000 people have read you all's books, I figure it makes any kind of government sharing of people that just bought a book look even sillier.
  
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Reply #72 - Nov 16th, 2013 at 1:24am
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Terence11/Terence441,

I am curious to know those number as well, but don't expect George or Doug to tell you.  With the recent crack down on anti-polygraph teachings by the government, George and Doug are probably skeptical about anyone who contacts them now possibly being an undercover pro-polygraph law enforcement person or some federal agent trying to trap them or get some more intel.  Everyone is a suspect now, even  you and I.  The best thing you can do is continue to spread the anti-poly message, how the polygraph is nothing more than an interrogation tool fishing for confessions, that it can be easily beaten, and it is pure junk science.   

George is safe for now because he lives overseas and this site is hosted on some foreign server.  But I bet the minute George buys a plane ticket to the U.S., he will be flagged in some system and set up to be arrested on some bogus charge as soon as he touches down in the U.S..

It's getting dangerous out there.  The polygraph is being exposed and those who expose it are considered a "threat" to national security.  More intrusive government oversight that does more harm than good.  Step lightly everyone, and God speed...

  
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Reply #73 - Nov 16th, 2013 at 7:26am
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Terence11/Terence441,

I am curious to know those number as well, but don't expect George or Doug to tell you.  With the recent crack down on anti-polygraph teachings by the government, George and Doug are probably skeptical about anyone who contacts them now possibly being an undercover pro-polygraph law enforcement person or some federal agent trying to trap them or get some more intel.  Everyone is a suspect now, even  you and I.  The best thing you can do is continue to spread the anti-poly message, how the polygraph is nothing more than an interrogation tool fishing for confessions, that it can be easily beaten, and it is pure junk science.


I don't mind answering Terence's question, as best I can. We don't have cumulative download statistics (and we regularly delete our server logs), but in a typical week, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector is downloaded about 1,000 times. At times, as with the news of Operation Lie Busters, the download rate becomes much higher. Throughout all editions of the book, we've kept the file size small enough that it could be placed on a diskette (no longer a concern) or sent as an e-mail attachment. The book is also available on Scribd.com (where it has over 70,000 views), and via BitTorrent. It's also mirrored on numerous websites. Considering that it has been available (in various editions) for more than 13 years, I think we can conservatively estimate that The Lie Behind the Lie Detector has been downloaded or shared at least 500,000 times and quite possibly more than a million.

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George is safe for now because he lives overseas and this site is hosted on some foreign server.  But I bet the minute George buys a plane ticket to the U.S., he will be flagged in some system and set up to be arrested on some bogus charge as soon as he touches down in the U.S..


We'll be learning the answer to that question soon.

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It's getting dangerous out there.  The polygraph is being exposed and those who expose it are considered a "threat" to national security.  More intrusive government oversight that does more harm than good.  Step lightly everyone, and God speed...


The true threat to national security where polygraphy is concerned is our continued misplaced reliance on this pseudoscience.
  

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Reply #74 - Nov 24th, 2013 at 5:05am
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George is safe for now because he lives overseas and this site is hosted on some foreign server.  But I bet the minute George buys a plane ticket to the U.S., he will be flagged in some system and set up to be arrested on some bogus charge as soon as he touches down in the U.S..


So...that didn't happen. Today I flew from Amsterdam to Houston, where the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Internal Affairs Credibility Assessment Division is headquartered, and encountered no hassles at all.

Smiley
  

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