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xenonman God Member Banned Offline May sarin, ricin, and variola major befall Langley Posts: 680 Location: WI USA Joined: Dec 14^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: People who have lied and passed a polygraph? Reply #15 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 11:42am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: Ugh, It is always the "Pro-Polygraph" community that argues that nobody can beat their machine, that their magical machine is infallible. I hate to tell you this but once people know how the polygraph process works, it is easy to beat. Controlled breathing is simply breathing normally (not breathing too fast or slow as a person lying or with something to hide may do). A polygrapher can't tell you to "stop breathing normally" as that would not make any since. Once you know how the polygraph bullshit game works, you know that without a confession the worst thing a polygrapher can concluded is that you are "suspected" of something. Polygraphers want confessions. I didn't confess. And I wasn't scared of the poly because I convinced myself it was junk and didn't worry about all the naughty things I've done in the past. If you do you research, you will learn that the polygraph does not work on those educated by it. Especially closed-minded individuals like myself who also do not believe in voodoo, Ouija board, magic spells, crystal balls, psychic readings, ghosts, or other nonsense...including a magical machine that can read your inner thoughts. The polygraph is nothing but a crappy tool that measures your sweat, blood pressure, breathing, and other things that doctors can also measure on you in a hospital. Good for it, the polygraph knows when my breathing changes and when I burp. So what? If you relax, don't confess, educate yourself on this stupid game, and keep your mind pre-occupied with exciting thoughts, you can beat the poly. And if you are deemed to be "suspected" of deception or something stupid, it is probably because the polygrapher is pissed that he/she couldn't coerce a confession from you. Suspicions mean nothing and are probably inevitable, as the polygraphers have to ding so many people for one reason or another to keep their stats up so people think the polygraph actually works. Suspicions without evidence don't even hold water in traffic court. It is junk. I've beaten the poly for a top secret alphabet-soup agency and I'll do it again, and again, and again... I'm always glad to learn of more incidences of applicants successfully "beating" the polygraph, particularly at the f*cking CIA.

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xenonman God Member Banned Offline May sarin, ricin, and variola major befall Langley Posts: 680 Location: WI USA Joined: Dec 14^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: People who have lied and passed a polygraph? Reply #16 - Jun 22^nd, 2013 at 11:46am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	[quote author=7076607A667E4C222020130 link=1346867811/12#12 date=1349851455]Curiouskat, I was on federal probation (and freely admit it) when I was poly'd. You were on federal probation, and were nonetheless able to obtain a security clearance? Very impressive!

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hey Guest	Re: People who have lied and passed a polygraph? Reply #17 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 4:26am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	hey if even around i have one coming up,,, i heard wearing tight sneakers helps too something about the blood presearu


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pants Guest	Re: People who have lied and passed a polygraph? Reply #18 - Aug 30^th, 2020 at 6:24pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I didn't lied (though I did employ cm and pass), though I know of at least half a dozen people that lied on their "test" and passed (anywhere from watching porn to hiring escorts to one guy doing hard drugs, though he was caught on the ua). They all brag about how easy it is to pass.


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nancy kilian Guest	Re: People who have lied and passed a polygraph? Reply #19 - Apr 14^th, 2022 at 6:32pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	My encounter with the polygraph was five years ago. I did not want to admit I had used some drugs while in school. I did some research and learned about breathing techniques. It was also suggested that women wear high heels to the exam and during questioning force your toes into the front of the shoes. Things did not go well. There was a pad I had to sit on and I was asked to remove my shoes. When the question about drug usage was asked I answered no. I thought my breathing was fine but I was shown after the test a surge in my blood pressure exactly at the point the question on drugs was asked. The examiner told me that past drug use would not in itself have disqualified me for the job. A drug screening would have been part of a pre-employment physical examination anyway. She also told me she knew about the high heel pumps countermeasure. "I read those web sites, too." she said. I was advised to answer all questions truthfully on any future polygraphs. I was told that countermeasures will work for a small number of people. But the newer polygraphs have motion sensors in the seat and arms of the chair. You have to sit perfectly still. My examination was ended early because of the significant rise in cardiocuff pressure that gave me up for the drug question. But, you know, I think the machine can be beat with proper mental training.


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quickfix Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 368 Joined: Jan 15^th, 2006	Re: People who have lied and passed a polygraph? Reply #20 - Apr 14^th, 2022 at 6:56pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: But, you know, I think the machine can be beat with proper mental training. One thing is clear: you certainly don't have the mental capacity.


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