George W. Maschke wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 2:31pm:

George W. Maschke wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 5:28pm:


My comments initially were made in response to the above questions that you posted. My subsequent comments were in response to challenges of my comments.

I ddn't change the subject YOU DID.  
You just can't seem to avoid some silly accusation anytime some calls attention to the fact that that you  promote lying and cheating as a justifiable behavior. 
Can you?

Sancho Panza

George, You do whatever you want to do it's your board.

Remember, YOUR assertions and your behavior is what puts your credibility into play in discussions about polygraph. 

You have ignored every single personal attack made against me by your boorish ill-informed yes men and yet chide me publicly for what you perceive to be the slightest infraction of some code of conduct that you evidently feel only applies to those who disagree with your point of view. 

If you will go back and review my posting history you will find that I initially confined my comments to civil discourse. You should also note that when attacks against me on this board began, YOU failed to act or even respond to my complaints even when I contacted you both privately and publicly. 

Thus ignored, I determined I should be absolved of any consequences if I decided to respond in kind. 

Right now I am the only person appearing regularly on this board to present an opposing point of view. Everyone else has written you off after 8 years of "nothing has changed" as ineffective and inconsequential, in your quest to alter the laws or substantly affect procedure regarding polygraph. I tend to agree with them on most of that. The only real difference is I care that the potential careers of people scared enough or foolish enough to follow your ill-conceived plan are being destroyed by your bad advice and immoral position that lying on a polygraph is justifiable because years ago you got your feelings hurt when you failed an exam. 

If you grow tired of hearing my same old responses maybe all of you should just stop making the same old tired comments and asking the same silly questions. 

Sancho Panza

S.P.,

You write:

SanchoPanza wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2008 at 3:46pm:


You're half right--your writing is simple minded.  You apparently have enough sense to know to be embarrassed over your initial statement which led to this exchange and my critique.  I'm not too embarrassed for you to not raise them again.  They are:

(1) Your statement:

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(2) My response:

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Sancho Panza has indeed been banned following repeated violations of AntiPolygraph.org's posting policy.

Lethe wrote on Nov 20^th, 2008 at 12:36am:


What a bleak reference...

Polygraph operators John Grogan and Ralph Hilliard have reached a settlement in Grogan v. Paolella, et al. As part of the agreement, Hilliard has taken down his website, TruthAboutGrogan.org. Those visiting the site are now greeted by the following notice:

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The site had included, among other things, complaints about Grogan from former customers, an article critical of his appearance in a pornographic video, and California Department of Consumer Affairs documentation of a complaint that in 2002 resulted in the revocation of Mr. Grogan's private investigator license, private patrol operator license, baton permit, and firearm permit as well as an order to pay $21,800 for the Bureau of Security and Investigative Services's investigation and prosecution costs.

An archive of TruthAboutGrogan.org as it appeared around the time it was taken down is attached as a 13.8 mb .zip file.

Any information on what happened to this case?  Personal interest.  A coworker's wife got ripped off by Mr. Grogan.  She should have known better, but she got sucked into an "over the phone voice stress analyzer" test.

I picked up second hand that on the day of the scheduled trial, Mr. Grogan dropped the civil law suit.  He is still advertising his voice stress machine.  If I were to burp while taking one of these voice stress tests, would they be able to tell me if the burp was truthful?