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I believe that the great Abraham Lincoln once said something notable with regard to pro se representation.

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Kind of an oxymoron.

TC

Holden and his bunch settled and then changed their minds when the settlement didn’t suit them.  I did let it go. But I am not going to let go of the fact that I did not file the suit in bad faith and I will not let go that I was essentially lied to and conned into thinking there was a settlement by the defendants.  It is just another example of polygraph examiner lying to get their way and then disparaging the person who points those lies out. This seems to be the SOP of the north Texas polygraph industry. 

I did not file this suit in bad faith and I am not going to be extorted.  I have no money to pay anyone. The defendants have been very effective in closing me down, I have decided to close my doors by the end of the summer, the end of the year at most.  That is what they wanted; now they have it.  If they want me to close down by the start of the summer I am fine with that.  Essentially I will be out of their hair in north Texas.  They have their little deals and apparently the deals still exist because there is no way they are doing a better overall job than I am.   

My lack of witnesses is not due to a lack of witnesses.  It has everything to do with the fact that there are people who knows what is going on but they are all afraid to step forward.  When David Kilpatrick wrote this is an issue which needed to be settled in the Courts, we took that suggestion.

I am in the correct profession.  I am a seeker of the truth and everything I have said has been just that or my opinion.  It is very sad.  It is very sad that someone agrees to a settlement and then backs out of it when he is caught with his pants down (figure of speech).  It is sad that I have gone four months thinking that this chapter was behind me only to be tortured through another experience when it could have all been done in October.  They are playing games with me just like they do with their examinees.  I did make an offer which I have maybe half a chance to pay over time.  I would drop the defamation suit (which is dead bang) and by the end of the summer I am closing my doors so they get their little racket back.   

They rejected the offer.  Who’s being unreasonable here?  They want to “punish me” and “teach me a lesson”.  It is that plain and simple.  It has nothing to do with money and everything to do with making an example of me.  This is what happens when someone disturbs the balance of power which they created.  They think I will cave just because they are stronger than me financially, politically, and in social status.   

I have no money; I am thousands of dollars in debit; I have no assets; when I close down I will have no income; I hold no stocks or bounds, I have no life insurance; no estate and everyone is telling me that I have no future.  So for the most part I rank no higher than a dead man or a rock.  It is pretty hard to get any money out of either of them.  That is what I find so funny about them.  On one hand they want to destroy me and take me out of polygraph.  They want to take my job and profession away form me.  Then on the other hand they want money they will never be able to collect because they achieved their goals and drumming me out of the business.  You can’t have your cake and eat it too.  They have already achieved their goal of pushing me out and isolating me.  I have given an offer where they have a chance to see some of their precious money.

But beware of the phoenix who rises from the ashes.  The ass you kick today may very well be the ass you will have to kiss tomorrow.  That was one hard lesson we have all had to learn at one point or another.   

I know there is no way I am going to get a fair trial.  I know the Judge has already made up his mind.  That is clear by what I heard him tell my lawyer.  I now know there is favoritism because one lawyer gets a two week extension because he wants to go on spring break.  I asked for an extension and am told that it would set the trial off a month or two and then he feed a bunch of bullshit that “justice delayed is justice denied.”  I listened to what he was saying and decided that he was right.  There is no use in prolonging things to cost more money and heartache.  Therefore, I withdrew my request.  Days later, a lawyer got a special setting that he wouldn’t give me so the lawyer can go to spring break.  The Judge forced us into trial quickly in the first place and then he extends it over spring break? Come on!  Justice delayed is justice denied seems to be a one way street in his court room.

I don’t think the evidence is going to be brought into consideration at all.  I think how the Judge and everyone else personally feels about me and my lawyer will be the deciding factor over me wining or losing this trial.  Not even half of the evidence has been heard, but the Judge feels confident enough to tell my attorney that if she continues, she could be sanctioned and does so in a way that I can hear it.  How am I supposed to feel?  I’ll tell you how I feel.

The Judge has made up his mind already, or at least that is the impression I am under.  If I am found liable, I will appeal and will continue to do so until I am heard fairly.   

I have been taking my medicine for coming here to AP.  I am a damn good polygraph examiner, better than my defendants in my opinion.  There are others who share that opinion, who are examiners, therapists, and officers alike.  I have been able to get answers where others could not.  In one case, I accurately detected sophisticated countermeasures where two of the defendants could not and have been beat.

I have an idea during the two week break in the slaughter.  This offer was extended before and I will extend it again.  A chance to end all of this quick and fair.

I will still step up and take any polygraph from any examiner regarding the issue of if I filed in bad faith.  It will have to be an R&I to protect the validity of the test.  The same rules I laid out in the April posting applies.  But there is a catch.  If I pass then it is done. Everything gets dismissed and we can all go back to the peace we all had from October 2008 to January 2009.  If I fail, then I will stipulate to the 10K.  I think this sounds reasonable.  I am convinced that I will pass, because I tried to avoid having to file that suit.  I know that there will be defendants who will fail because I am convinced that they are doing this.   

I believe in polygraph that much where I am willing to put my money where my mouth is.  I wonder if Mr. Holden believes in polygraph that much.  He states it works every time he gets on the stand.  Talk is cheap Eric; put your money where your big mouth is.   

This is their big chance to shame me totally in the polygraph industry.  On the other hand, it is also a chance for me to vindicate myself too.  To me this is not a gamble.  I know how my test will come out.  I wonder if he is so convinced.   

He could always accept the offer in which I have given, which goes off the table at midnight tonight Texas time.  The offer for polygraph is open till further posted notice.   But all the stipulation of the test will be agreed to in a Rule 11 before I sit for the test.  I know better than to take anyone’s word now.

If all the polygraph examiners on this board believe in polygraph as much as you say you do, this should be a reasonable offer.  Or is antipolygraph.org right that even the most experienced polygraph examiners won’t drink their own KoolAid?

Hunter,

Thank you so much for your kind words.  I have a few options which I am exploring and have already started to lay a foundation for the future.  There are two areas which I am primarily looking that have markets where slow but progressive growth is possible.  

One thing is for sure, I never want to relive this nightmare again.  I believed something was wrong and still do, I stand by what I did and truly believe I did the right thing given the situation I was in and the surrounding circumstances.  

We are in an industry where honesty and integrity are promoted to others while these two virtues are cast aside as trivial in certain cliques within the industry.  

Be that as it may, I feel I have devised an offer which everyone can walk away a winner in one way or another.  I feel it is a very reasonable offer and an offer that will prove my commitment to my anti monopoly principles.  It meets Mr. Holden’s demands only without the apology.  I would rather drink gasoline and piss on a brush fire before I apologize to the likes of him.  If I were wrong I would apologize, but I am not so he will get no such pleasure from me, just as I am sure I will get no such pleasure from him.  He will walk away with guaranteed money, and I walk away saving face.  I’m happy, he’s happy, other than hating each other’s guts, we will all be happy.  

This time there will be no more games in closing the deal.  If he does accept the offer, it will be closed and finalized in an expeditious manner to prevent any future “misunderstandings.”  I can not and will not trust any of their handshakes and promises again.  I am the only one who kept to the last agreement in good faith in my opinion.  Extending this beyond October of 2008 falls squarely on the shoulders of either Mr. Holden and or Mr. Webster, in my opinion.  Anyone who walks away with less than they think they deserve can gripe at one or both of them.  One of them lied, bottom line, go and pitch your fits to them.  I don’t want to hear them; my give a damn is busted, as they say in Texas.  

Hunter, once again thank you for your kind words and advice.  You have been one of the few persons who have approached me as a gentleman and some day if our paths cross, you will see I always give the same respect and courtesy three fold.  There are some who will call me a liar, but they already have knives with their names on it in my back.  

Twoblock wrote on Mar 15^th, 2009 at 11:15pm:


Fighting Irish, remember those meaningful wishes were offered to you by the same poster who thought it was "silly" when I complained that you were being anonymously accused of an unsubstantiated crime in this forum, then he insinuates that you are a quitter, then wishes you luck and encourages you to keep posting.

I suspect the Anti-Polygraph crowd cares little for your situation other than as fodder for their AP rhetoric.  You alone need to decide what course of action will be best for you and your family in the long run. 

At the end of the day they are what is most important or should be. If you make your decision with that foremost in your mind, it doesn't really matter what you do for a living or where you do it and it isn't likely you will take the wrong road. 

At this point I think you should beware people who may just be trying to stir you up just for the entertainment value they get from your misery.

Tsk Tsk Tsk
OMG  YOU HAVE DISCOVERED OUR SECRET POWERFUL NETWORK!!

I guess there isn't anything left to do but admit it.   SIGH....

Twoblock,  I am part of the Anti-Anti-Polygraph, Anti Cheating on Pre-employment Test, Anti-Lying to the Police, Anti-Uninformed-Curmudgeon, Network. 

We are a small but dedicated group; fighting against those who try to convince people they are better off lying and cheating than they are telling the truth. We abhor those who continually cite statistically inconsequential anecdotes, over-generalizations and misinformation as proof of their arguments. 

Yes Twoblock, We are the "AAPACPTALPAUCN". T-shirts, Coffee mugs and Mouse pads are available for a small fee. All proceeds will be spent educating people about:
Our belief that the use of polygraph countermeasures evidences a lack of personal and professional integrity,
The potential consequences of choosing the "Liars Path", 
How to avoid using the preposition, "to", when the adverb, "too", is the appropriate word, 
Dispelling the myth that Columbus was a great explorer who discovered that the earth was round, when he was actually a genocidal liar who repeatedly got lost instead finding his intended destination. and 
Any other cause that furthers the goals of our organization.

We’re kind of like lifeguards; people still drown, but if you have a lifeguard on duty, you’ll save more than you lose.

We even have a secret handshake and high sign.

How is any of that, your concern?

Ed Earl, Twoblock (and all),

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