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Random_Man New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Jul 13^th, 2006	List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Jul 14^th, 2006 at 1:20am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	As a new member to the site, it occurs to me that listing the LE Depts that choose not to utilize the polygraph exam as a condition of hiring should be publicized on this site. I seek to start this in the hopes that those depts may see boosted recruiting numbers from aspiring law enforcement candidates who, despite being truthful, had failed their polygraph. While the inevitable feedback from pro-polygraph members would be that this would also give a list of depts to deceptive candidates, my response would be that that's what background investigations are for! 8) Also, if those depts that don't polygraph see boosted recruitment numbers, that may encourage depts that do polygraph who are hurting for applicants to reconsider including the polygraph in their recruitment process. Any ideas?


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Random_Man New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Jul 13^th, 2006	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #1 - Jul 14^th, 2006 at 1:57am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Responding to myself, it appears I'm not the only one one this board that has attempted such a list - however, depts get added and subtracted piecemeal and unreliably. I will start with the depts that we know for sure that don't. Once we are finished, I would hope a definitive list is compiled and stickied for future reference: All of MA depts NYPD NJ State Police Minnesota Cities/Towns


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whoanow New User Offline Posts: 2 Joined: Feb 10^th, 2006	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #2 - Jul 14^th, 2006 at 2:30am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	State of Oregon does not poly. I could be wrong, but with the exception of the FBI I don't think federal LE agencies poly...or randomly poly a cross section of applicants.


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woogie New User Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Jun 27^th, 2006	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #3 - Jul 14^th, 2006 at 5:26am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Philadelphia & Pittsburgh departments don't polygraph, and I've heard the Supreme Court Police don't polygraph, either.


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Random_Man New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Jul 13^th, 2006	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #4 - Jul 20^th, 2006 at 12:57am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Here's the updated list: Massachusetts Cities/Towns Minnesota Cities/Towns Oregon Cities/Towns New York City PD (NYPD) City of Philadelphia City of Pittsburgh New Jersey State Police -Supreme Court Police (unconfirmed) *adding on, most federal agencies do require the polygraph, perhaps not on initial entry but at some point early in their career every federal agent would have to.


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blaqmasq New User Offline Posts: 1 Joined: Aug 10^th, 2006	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #6 - Aug 11^th, 2006 at 4:41pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	when i went through Los Angeles PD in 1994, i wasn't poly'd. but again, it was in 1994.


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6230 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #7 - Aug 11^th, 2006 at 4:55pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	LAPD has required pre-employment polygraph screening for a number of years now; the failure rate is on the order of 50%.

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JB New User Offline Posts: 4 Joined: Aug 8^th, 2006	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #8 - Aug 20^th, 2006 at 8:04am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Random_Man wrote on Jul 20^th, 2006 at 12:57am: Here's the updated list: Massachusetts Cities/Towns Minnesota Cities/Towns Oregon Cities/Towns New York City PD (NYPD) City of Philadelphia City of Pittsburgh New Jersey State Police -Supreme Court Police (unconfirmed) *adding on, most federal agencies do require the polygraph, perhaps not on initial entry but at some point early in their career every federal agent would have to. I think Pittsburgh does poly. It says they do on there website.


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skeptical New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: Oct 10^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #10 - Oct 10^th, 2006 at 7:42pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	ALL Florida agencies' hiring requirements are available via the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (including polygraph and/or voice stress). Visit http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/CJST/cjap/2005/general/Indexcjap2005.html and then click (for example) law enforcement -> police departments -> requirements -> table 3. Sheriffs offices, state agencies, ports, and schools are also available. Good luck to all.


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Dippityshurff Ex Member	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #11 - Oct 10^th, 2006 at 11:36pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	skeptical wrote on Oct 10^th, 2006 at 7:42pm: ALL Florida agencies' hiring requirements are available via the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement (including polygraph and/or voice stress). Visit http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/CJST/cjap/2005/general/Indexcjap2005.html and then click (for example) law enforcement -> police departments -> requirements -> table 3. Sheriffs offices, state agencies, ports, and schools are also available. Good luck to all. I do believe that all FL agencies either do polygraph or voice stress. VS is big down there because the NITV is located down that way and have a pretty good sales presence. Am I correct that all require either one, or the other? I used to keep up down that way


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bacon_aint_easy New User Offline Posts: 3 Location: las vegas Joined: Dec 12^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #14 - Dec 22^nd, 2006 at 5:50am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Chicago Police dept.


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Dippityshurff Ex Member	Re: List: LE Depts WITHOUT Polygraph Reply #13 - Oct 13^th, 2006 at 12:59am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	skeptical wrote on Oct 11^th, 2006 at 5:34am: No, you're not correct. That's why I provided the link. For instance, in Hillsborough County required poly, Palm Beach County requires voice stress analysis, and Highlands County requires neither. Well then, that is at least the 2nd mistake I've made today. And I have now seen the link LOL


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