Same crap happened to me recently .I didn't fail but it was inconclusive and he didn't pass me. He said my breathing was to erratic and my bodies responses were not normal. Granted I was controlling my breathing and thinking crazy thoughts on control questions. It was funny he did everything I read in the book from the stim number test to the chair with wheels and even explaining the polygraph as a machine holyer than god. And when I signed the form at the end after I made a big stink becuaze he said I was controlling my blood presure...give me a break guy. But I didn't sign the part that said "I do not want a copy of the test" and he goes oh right here you forgot one." And then I explained the question to him. There tricky and even though I didn't pass I beat the asshole. They said that after review I may be able to re start the whole process next year..crappity smack them.im.never taking another one. Questions about sex with my girlfriend, personal questions about family.  Completely un needed if you can't judge someones character after a oral board what's the point..just do the poly first and save all the trouble..

Bill_Brown wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2011 at 9:23am:


I think if he had failed due to countermeasure usage then it could be accurately said that he was "caught" using countermeasures.

Since he was given an inconclusive, it seems much more likely that the polygraph operator simply guessed correctly that the subject was using countermeasures but was unable to prove it.   

That, of course, leads to the inevitable conclusion that countermeasure "detection" is often, if not always, simply a guess on the part of the polygraph operator.  How often do they guess correctly?  At least some of the time, as evidenced by the above-referenced post.  How often are they incorrect?

More importantly, why are they guessing at all if the polygraph procedure for detecting deception is purportedly a scientific process?

Bill_Brown wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2011 at 5:47pm:

Please step up to the countermeasure challenge and prove that you can do this. I say you have no idea when someone is properly using countermeasures.

BB

I agree that haphazard attempts at countermeasures would present as chart anomalies which an examiner could say invalidates the collected data. I would not term this activity as a countermeasure, but rather an attempt at sabotage.

Whenever I refer to countermeasures, I refer to properly deployed countermeasures; you are correct, it is a skill requiring refinement and practice.

Your command of the English language is impressive.  I am sure that came from the many degrees you obtained in collage.  Very logical and impressive.

depressed wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 2:05am:

Depressed: back it down a couple notches. there are many others who deserve this kind of treatment, but bill_brown is among the most civil and open minded.

Mr. Truth, 

Sorry about the spelling error, I will be more attentive.