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FBI Investigative Specialist/SSG
Apr 30th, 2004 at 3:38am
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Has anyone ever had any experience w/ this group of FBI employees?

Is anyone in the positio currently or know anything about the position, ex: is it interesting, exciting, challenging, why do people like it or dislike it, etc.

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Re: FBI Investigative Specialist/SSG
Reply #1 - Apr 30th, 2004 at 5:38am
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Dear kodak,

These positions do not require a four year degree.  Many applicants take these positions to set themselves up for applications to state and local departments as they try to continue night school (mostly criminal justice or law enforcement curriculums).  The three letter word looks good on a resume.

Applicants for these positions do not fare any better than general applicants for special agent positions after getting their degrees.

They work tough constantly rotating shifts but get exposure which is valued by other departments.

Pretty tough for married individuals because of the difficulty in predicting schedules.

You will still need to go through the poly process which is a 50-50 crapshoot.  You can hit the lottery ticket or be banned for life from most law enforcement postitions if you fail. 

It just depends what is your final destination or goal.

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Reply #2 - Apr 30th, 2004 at 5:32pm
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Fair Chance,

Besides the rotating schedule, do you know of any other positives or negatives about the job.
  
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Re: FBI Investigative Specialist/SSG
Reply #3 - May 1st, 2004 at 1:30am
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Dear kodak,

Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years,  access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.

Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI.  The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period.  The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.

You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.

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Reply #4 - May 2nd, 2004 at 3:42pm
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Fair Chance,

I sent you a pm
  
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Reply #5 - May 5th, 2004 at 6:23pm
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Dear kodak,

Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years,  access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.

Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI.  The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period.  The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.

You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.

Regards.


Fair Chance,

From what I gather you have not been involved w/ folks in the Inv. Specialist postion right?

If so, I was looking mor for information on what a day in the life of an IS is like or what reasons people like the job?

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Reply #6 - May 6th, 2004 at 1:57am
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Kodak,

I have some knowledge of what you could expect from this position, based on my research and discussions with individuals currently employed in the position. Basically, investigative specialists have a unique position within the Bureau working street level surveillance.  This could entail following individuals on foot, in vehicles, or parking outside their home. They do not have any arrest authority. The main focus of investigative specialists is to conduct surveillance operations to thwart terrorism and "keep an eye" on suspected terrorist or those enabling terrorist activity.  I do not believe this position is for everyone, if you are the type of person that always has to be doing something then this position is probably not for you.  In some instances you could spend anywhere from 8, 10, or even 12 hours sitting in a car!!! On the other hand, if a law enforcement position is your true desire and calling then you should go for it.  I venture to say that people in this position enjoy there job, otherwise they would not be doing it. Quite a few individuals have actually used this position as a stepping stone to an agent position, but that is no guarantee. It is my understanding that the Bureau is looking to hire a substantial number of people for this position in the coming year, so be on the look out for vacancy announcements.  I hope this helps, please keep posting if you have any additional questions.
  
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Re: FBI Investigative Specialist/SSG
Reply #7 - May 6th, 2004 at 3:06am
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kodak,

Many SSG personnel [not all] are usually hired into what is known within the bureau as Professional Support Positions, generally GS-11 positions. SSG personnel often work directly with Special Agents. They are not issued weapons, nor do they carry a badge. They are however, given bureau cars, credit cards, bureau credentials that look nearly identical to Special Agents. Additionally, they hold TS security clearances. Support personnel attend squad meetings, and are a big part of case workload to include big arrests. They are also allowed overtime if authorized.

There are various specialties within SSG units and its assigned personnel. For the most part, SSG support personnel are treated no different than SA's, and in some cases, respected more than some agents within SO and SSG units.

A typical day in the life of an SSG support employee is a very interesting and at times, exciting career. It all depends on what you find exciting. If you are assigned to an SSG unit, you will be treated the same as if you were a special agent. Make no mistake about it, SA’s trust, depend on, and rely heavily on their support personnel.

SSG personnel do a lot of surveillance support, photography, and generally works with special types of surveillance and counter intelligence, surveillance equipment, electronics, cameras, computer specialists, various types of analyst, video, audio, etc., etc., and the list goes on.

Do not be fooled into thinking an SSG position is not a desirable job, they are good positions that can lead to other things within the bureau. Look at it as getting a foot in the door, and remember, SSG support positions can lead to higher paying GS support positions out-side of an SSG/SO unit.

Good luck with your future FBI endeavors. .

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Reply #8 - May 6th, 2004 at 4:42am
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Kodak,

I have some knowledge of what you could expect from this position, based on my research and discussions with individuals currently employed in the position. Basically, investigative specialists have a unique position within the Bureau working street level surveillance.  This could entail following individuals on foot, in vehicles, or parking outside their home. They do not have any arrest authority. The main focus of investigative specialists is to conduct surveillance operations to thwart terrorism and "keep an eye" on suspected terrorist or those enabling terrorist activity.  I do not believe this position is for everyone, if you are the type of person that always has to be doing something then this position is probably not for you.  In some instances you could spend anywhere from 8, 10, or even 12 hours sitting in a car!!! On the other hand, if a law enforcement position is your true desire and calling then you should go for it.  I venture to say that people in this position enjoy there job, otherwise they would not be doing it. Quite a few individuals have actually used this position as a stepping stone to an agent position, but that is no guarantee. It is my understanding that the Bureau is looking to hire a substantial number of people for this position in the coming year, so be on the look out for vacancy announcements.  I hope this helps, please keep posting if you have any additional questions.


From your conversations you have had w/ folks currently on the job, do you (or anyone that has replied) know any dislike about the job they might have or have had?

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Reply #9 - May 6th, 2004 at 3:30pm
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There are not any specific dislikes that I have heard of, they are different from person to person. If there was one, however, probably the biggest would be the hours.  From my understanding they are pretty irregular, you could be required to work at any time, at any hour.  I venture to say that this would make it hard for someone with a family.  The FBI also requires a two year committment for this position, this in itself leads me to believe that they may have trouble keeping people in this position and have high turnover. I suggest that you go this website www.911jobsforum.com, there is an array of information on the investigative specialist position.  You can actually conduct a search and strand upon strand of posts will pop up.  Good Luck!!!
  
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Reply #10 - May 6th, 2004 at 5:03pm
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kodak,

Many SSG personnel [not all] are usually hired into what is known within the bureau as Professional Support Positions, generally GS-11 positions. SSG personnel often work directly with Special Agents. They are not issued weapons, nor do they carry a badge. They are however, given bureau cars, credit cards, bureau credentials that look nearly identical to Special Agents. Additionally, they hold TS security clearances. Support personnel attend squad meetings, and are a big part of case workload to include big arrests. They are also allowed overtime if authorized.

There are various specialties within SSG units and its assigned personnel. For the most part, SSG support personnel are treated no different than SA's, and in some cases, respected more than some agents within SO and SSG units.

A typical day in the life of an SSG support employee is a very interesting and at times, exciting career. It all depends on what you find exciting. If you are assigned to an SSG unit, you will be treated the same as if you were a special agent. Make no mistake about it, SA’s trust, depend on, and rely heavily on their support personnel.

SSG personnel do a lot of surveillance support, photography, and generally works with special types of surveillance and counter intelligence, surveillance equipment, electronics, cameras, computer specialists, various types of analyst, video, audio, etc., etc., and the list goes on.

Do not be fooled into thinking an SSG position is not a desirable job, they are good positions that can lead to other things within the bureau. Look at it as getting a foot in the door, and remember, SSG support positions can lead to higher paying GS support positions out-side of an SSG/SO unit.

Good luck with your future FBI endeavors. .

Knowledge is power, educate yourself on how polygraph exams are administered.


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Triple x,

Have you had any experience as an investigative specialist or know folks in the position?

Is do you know of any of the negatives about the job?

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Re: FBI Investigative Specialist/SSG
Reply #11 - May 7th, 2004 at 12:43am
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Dear Kodak,

Triple X and Rugger are accurate and as about detailed as you are going to get on a non-secure bulletin board.  Read in between the lines.

Anyone who admits to "being in the know" of "day to day real life experience" of what you want to know is not going to post for good reason. 

You are an anonymous poster on a website trying to get information on how investigative specialist work on a day to day basis.   If you really understood what you are applying for you would not ask such questions and expect a legitimate answer.

Please be patient and understand that you are not going to get details from any legitimate source other than the agency that you are applying for concerning specific day to day likes and dislike about the position.

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Re: FBI Investigative Specialist/SSG
Reply #12 - May 7th, 2004 at 1:24am
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Kodak,

I am not an investigative specialist; however, I do know and work with SSG support personnel on a regular basis. I can’t help but notice, you continue to press for negativity with respect to SSG support positions…. 

If one look’s close enough, negative aspects can be found within any career field or position. This would be inclusive of SSG support positions as well as special agent positions. Having said that, if I had to single out and identify only one negative aspect regarding SSG support positions, I would say that SSG employees should be paid more money, at least a GS-12 pay scale.

SSG personnel usually will “top-out” at a GS-11, step-10. Approximately 55 - 60k per year, plus locality pay depending on your geographic location.

The good points out weigh the bad with respect to SSG positions. As I said previously, working within an SSG squad/unit is not a bad assignment.

Good luck.


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Reply #13 - May 7th, 2004 at 7:09am
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Thanks for the reply. I know that in this particular position the positves can't be divulged b/c of the covert actions of the job. I am looking more for the daily nuiances of the job, why folks that have been doing this for a while either like or dislike the job.

Thanks for any additional feedback you can provide.

  
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Reply #14 - Jun 11th, 2004 at 11:25pm
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Dear kodak,

Positives, paycheck and benefits everyweek including four weeks vacation after three years,  access to information that few people are aware off, some cases are very interesting.

Negatives, you cannot tell anyone about anything interesting about your job because it is all top secret, you cannot impress your friends about what you do because it will be frowned upon by the security people of the FBI.  The FBI wants you to keep an exceptionally low profile almost to the point that no one is aware of the fact that you work for the FBI period.  The FBI is experiencing a low point of prestige after the 911 commission findings and the Director, to his credit, is fighting with all of his might to keep as much work under the FBI as possible.

You can contact me with specific question via private messages about anything more because I do not want to bore people with the details.

Regards.


I have read in several places about the SSG and the job sounds boring as hell. Sitting and rotting in a car doing surveillance should be a dandy.

Bring toothpicks to hold your eyelids open.

Go another route brother or you will slit your wrists.
  
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