In an article titled, "FBI seeks to rebuild its image," Chris Mondics of the Philadelphia Inquirer Washington bureau reports that Roger L. Trott, chief of the FBI's agent training unit, asserts that nearly half of FBI agent applicants who pass preliminary tests don't pass the polygraph:
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If Trott is right, then the percentage of FBI applicants who fail to pass the polygraph is up sharply from an earlier figure of about 20%. Perhaps, with the surge in applications following the events of 11 September 2001, the FBI has decided that it can afford to arbitrarily disqualify more applicants based on polygraph chart readings.

Note: The above-linked article is no longer available on Philly.com. A PDF printout is attached.

Are applicants for special agent hire less honest than those who apply as linguists? That seems to be what the FBI's polygraphers believe, since "only" 20% of linguist applicants are failing the polygraph, compared with over 50% of special agent applicants!

In today's (27 Dec. 2002) Washington Post, Susan Schmidt and Allan Lengel report in an article titled, "Help Still Wanted: Arabic Linguists":

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Is this the most substantive thing that you can contribute to this discussion?

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So you know nothing about this issue or the people who contribute here.

Ah, well, at least you admit it.

Skeptic

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Only if you want to depict yourself as an even more obvious fool than you already have.

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That's funny...most people who don't care about an issue don't bother to learn about it.  Perhaps you are a polygrapher?  That would explain the hostility and lack of empathy for people impacted by the device.

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I'm sorry you don't feel those who are wronged should attempt to do something about it.  For the record, many people here (such as myself) have nothing personal to gain by eliminating the polygraph.  But that little detail won't get in the way of you posting your simplistic drivel, will it?

Yeah, you've bothered to spend a lot of time here.

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Oh, no.  Much more fun to talk about you and your obviously clueless posts.

Skeptic

Damn Gino, you must be an attorney.  You have that legal ease double-talk all worked out.  I never "assailed" George.  I do belive George did tell the world he was wronged; check out Capt Smith's harangue 

http://antipolygraph.org/statements/statement-003.shtml
      
      Correct me if I'm wrong, that is George isn't it? (Don't lie)

As to my referencing to the "art of polygraphy" via the awkard use of the word "polygraph".... I say tomato, you say tomoto.  You understood what I was saying; I say again, you must be an attorney.

Skeptic, Clueless posts?  No more than you are.  I have a clue and I do feel empathy for those impacted by the device; however, life does go on.  You stated that you have nothing personal to gain by eliminating the polygraph, same here.  But that little detail won't get in the way of you, as well, posting your pompous, arrogant, simplistic foolishness either.  

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OK Pee Wee    We must agree to disagree!  Are you sure its not Septic rather than Skeptic?

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The casual reader of this sight?  The casual readers to this sight have a life, a job, and a realist outlook on life and do/will know that I truly am empathic to those who are deserving.  Those who find it necessary to call the world a bully and believe that we all have the right to have everything we wish for will not.   

We do not have the right to "have" everything we wish for, but we do have the chance to try and fail or succeed.  If polygraphy (for you Gino  ) is so evil, how/why do people pass tests every day and move on with life? (Please don't give me the "They all used Counter Measures" line.)

Lets see, 25 job positions open up at a PD or Fed Agenecy and 1000 people apply for the job.  Gee if I follow the logic on this sight, all 1000 should get the job.  I guess that means 40 people will each share one of the 25 positions because it would not be right to disqualify 975 of the applicants. (Yeah, right)

As I have eluded to in my past postings, life is not fair, it is just life.  False Positives are not fair, true, but neither is life.   

Courts make mistakes and innocent folks go to jail, some times for life.  I guess we should abolish the Court system in the US as well!
(just using the logic that is taught here)

I most eagerly await the next onslaught of verbal judo from the kind and empathic (or is it pathetic) crew here in George and Gino's Wonderland.   

Skeptic,
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Do you believe in Santa Clause? The latter does seem to fit your Web personality.  I believe BatMan christened you "septic"
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Now you are speaking apples and oranges.  Physical injury due to defective products and blatant racial discrimination do not compare.  But then you have a tendency to look at the world through your own particular brand of rose colored glasses; as do we all.

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Or in your case it is easier to ignore the question.  I readily admit that False positives exist.  They exist in all factes of life in one manner or another.... Deal with them and move on.  Now answer my question:  How do you explain that so many "pass" the test while others fail?

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But I am, Skeptic, sadly I am.  You just see the tree, not the entire forest.

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I have no axe to grind, and I have read the site prior to commenting.  I believe I am addressing the material at hand when I say the majority of posters to this site are A. Crying in their beer over opportunity lost.  B.  Looking for a way to game the system.
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Now, now don't go making assumptions.  You flatter your self.  This site is not oddly important to me.  I find it an ammusing way to spend my free time during the Holiday slump in business.  When I become bored with the mindless drivel I'll just look else ware for another type of diversion.  Now take this post and twist as you do so well.