Intercept/Ed Gelb in LA--any experience?

Started by Nobody, Jan 16, 2003, 11:05 PM

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Prick

I dealt with Ed Gelb today.

Unfortunately, I didn't get polygraphed. I was hoping to see what all the fuss is about.

As far as him seeming arrogant or something, he seemed nicer than most cops I've dealt with.
As far as the "Diploma mill" stuff, either he is a PhD, or he isn't.


If you think he is a fraud, or not a PhD, then say it.


He has been in some pretty high profile cases, and I'm sure his background has been scrutinized a lot better, by people a lot more qualified than you folks.
A lot of you sound bitter, because you lied, and failed.
There are a lot of steps in the "weeding out" phase of law enforcement.
Even if you made it through the polygraph stage, you more than likely would have failed in other areas.
And from the looks of the whining, failure doesn't seem like it's anything new to some of you.

Matty

With a stupid name like "Prick" it's no wonder he makes such a stupid post, and it's no wonder why he chooses such a stupid profession ad polygraphy.

Here is the problem Prick; polygraphy relies on fear. The polygraph experience is in and of itself intimidating to those who are unfamiliar with it.  There is no presumption of innocence but rather a presumption of guilt! You know that to be true!

If a subject during a pre-employment polygraph answers all questions honestly, as instructed by the lying polygrapher, that person has a very good chance of failing the test or showing inconclusive, (in which case they are NOT given the benefit of the doubt)

There are many reasons why a person could show a reaction to a question that have nothing to do with deception...and you know this, Prick. Showing strong reactions alone, in the absence of damaging admissions means nothing, Prick.

It's you and people like Nonombre who choose a profession where you try to catch people in lies and deny them their dreams who are very sad and vindictive people. Who would choose such a field?? What do you tell people you meet at social gatherings you do for a living? Are you even invited to social gatherings?

You, in the polygraph profession choose to be in a field that is proven to be very flawed and as a result; falsely accuses innocent people of guilt and denys honest & law abiding people jobs they deserve.

Stop lying to people by telling them to just be truthful and don't apply CM's and everything will be okay. I would love for there to be a lye whereas all polygraphers were made to pass a polygraph.....oh wait, they would all pass because they know how to beat that junk machine... :D

nonombre

Quote from: Matty on Jul 08, 2005, 06:16 PM
It's you and people like Nonombre who choose a profession where you try to catch people in lies and deny them their dreams who are very sad and vindictive people. Who would choose such a field?? What do you tell people you meet at social gatherings you do for a living? Are you even invited to social gatherings?

Yes,

I am frequently invited to social gatherings.

Nonombre





Jeffery

Quote from: nonombre on Jul 08, 2005, 09:18 PM

Yes,

I am frequently invited to social gatherings.

Nonombre


The policemen's ball and police retirement's don't count.

nonombre

Quote from: Jeffery on Jul 08, 2005, 09:45 PM

The policemen's ball and police retirement's don't count.

I pulled security duty at a Grass Roots concert once.  How about that?



polyscam

As much fun as the three previous posts may be, I have to ask what they have to do with polygraph?

nonombre

Quote from: Brandon Hall on Jul 08, 2005, 10:02 PMAs much fun as the three previous posts may be, I have to ask what they have to do with polygraph?

Aw, lighten up "Francis."



polyscam

#97
oops...you're right.  I must have temporarily thought I was logged onto the polygraphplace message board.  Absolutely no humor allowed there.      :P

nonombre

Quote from: Brandon Hall on Jul 08, 2005, 11:01 PMoops...you're right.  I must have temporarily thought I was logged onto the polygraphplace message board.  Absolutely no humor allowed there.      :P

Seriously,

Sometimes it is okay to back up and take a short break from all this.  Humour is not a bad way to do that.  You see, not all polygraph examiner's are "a-- holes," and not all anti-poly guys are "losers."  I for one am always willing to listen and to keep an open mind.

Nonombre.
  

  

Jeffery

#99
Quote from: nonombre on Jul 08, 2005, 09:54 PM

I pulled security duty at a Grass Roots concert once.  How about that?
Were you moonlighting doing security work?  Proves my point; a polygrapher's social outlets are with cops or doing cop type work.

Do polygraphers have any normal, non-cop friends?  What do you tell those people about what you do for a living?

nonombre

Quote from: Jeffery on Jul 08, 2005, 11:48 PM
Were you moonlighting doing security work?  Proves my point; a polygrapher's social outlets are with cops or doing cop type work.

Do polygraphers have any normal, non-cop friends?  What do you tell those people about what you do for a living?

Actually I have quite few 'normal, non-cop friends."  I have taught part time at a community college, am active in my community,  and when I tell people I am a polygraph examiner, most are quite fascinated.

Nonombre
  

anxietyguy

Quote from: nonombre on Jul 09, 2005, 12:41 AM

Actually I have quite few 'normal, non-cop friends."  I have taught part time at a community college, am active in my community,  and when I tell people I am a polygraph examiner, most are quite fascinated.

Nonombre
 

Probably because they are too ignorant to know any better, and actually think that it is a "lie detector." Which would make sense because fools hang out with fools. :D

Anxietyguy

nonombre

Quote from: anxietyguy on Jul 09, 2005, 01:24 AM

Probably because they are too ignorant to know any better, and actually think that it is a "lie detector." Which would make sense because fools hang out with fools. :D

Anxietyguy

Not very nice, are you?



polyscam

Nonombre,

Believe it or not my job probably brings questions such as yours.  When I mention what I do for a living I recieve interest as well.  I work with persons of the post-mortem type.  Always a party topic much as yours.  I have noticed more of an interest in the sensational news stories much as you most likely have noticed regarding your profession.  Forgive my mortician-like humor but I come by it naturally.  However, my current employment is not as contraversial as yours.  I find they die you find they lie.  Mine is a more exact science.

nonombre

Quote from: Brandon Hall on Jul 09, 2005, 05:06 AMNonombre,

Believe it or not my job probably brings questions such as yours.  When I mention what I do for a living I recieve interest as well.  I work with persons of the post-mortem type.  Always a party topic much as yours.  I have noticed more of an interest in the sensational news stories much as you most likely have noticed regarding your profession.  Forgive my mortician-like humor but I come by it naturally.  However, my current employment is not as contraversial as yours.  I find they die you find they lie.  Mine is a more exact science.


Brandon,

I must agree with you on this.  Your science is MUCH more exact that mine, more accurate, more reliable, and even with greater utility.  After all, by the time you see the subject, he is definately DEAD.  No contraversy, no false positives or negatives, no anti-post mortum websites, no  death countermeasures, and no need for the dead to confess as to their physiological state.

I sort of envy you

Nonombre.  ::)

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