As a full member, I call BS on the APA's polygraph "testing" accuracy claims

Started by Dan Mangan, Sep 08, 2016, 08:07 PM

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Joe McCarthy

Quote from: danmangan on Oct 05, 2016, 10:18 PMIt's all about money.

But this is where we 110% agree, with one caveat (do to speak)

Not all of us are like that.  Some of us just want to offer a fair product, at a fair, but yet competitive price.  Having said that, if you look at the pricing, especially here in Texas, you can see that everyone is "on the same page."  Competitive pricing does not exist in Texas, because it is strongly discouraged, or at least I have seen it be strongly discouraged, in the past.  Also, I have taken a lot of crap and criticism for my competitive fee structure. 

You can go ahead and wax poetic about statistics, and theory all you want.  I will stick with facts and the past and current behaviors of people in this industry.  Because that is what really makes the point.  If polygraph is 90 to 93% accurate, why is it that none some of the most prominent examiners refused to use it to settle a long fought issue, and take me out of business like they said they wanted to do? 

Hey maria, that is a good question to you directly.  You want to flap your big mouth about how you want to take me out of business.  If you were telling the truth and I was lying, you could have been the hero and done it in two hours; why didn't you?


Polygraph Examinations or "Lie Detector Tests" can be used in a variety of ways to resolve important issues for our clients.  A polygraph examination can  verify the truthfulness of a statement, or the veracity of a witness and is used by individuals, business owners/employers, attorneys, and professional counselors/clinicians along with supervision officers  for the treatment and monitoring of individuals on active probation or parole.
Correctly administered, a lie detector test utilizing the polygraph examination, can be 87% to 94% accurate when a trained polygraph examiner uses a reliable and validated testing format.  Texas Polygraph Services exclusively utilizes testing formats that have been validated by research and that are used extensively by the United States Government.


Is that not direct quotes from your website?

Lets ask maria.

If polygraph is 93% accurate, why did you run from it to take me out of business if you are telling the truth and I am lying?

Is it because you are afraid the accuracy rates are incorrect; or is it that you feel the accuracy rates are correct, and you didn't want to be exposed for the liar you are?

I think it's a fair question.  Albeit, its the "either or" or the "alternative" question, but these frankly are the only two possible options. 

You do remember what John Rios said was the reason someone would refuse to take a polygraph, don't you maria.  I wonder if he thinks your refusal is because you're lying?  It must be, because that is what he said about people who won't take the test. 

Curious, how does it feel to have your own, former President, and current Chairman of the Board of Directors, thinking you're a liar? 

Hey, he is the one who said it.  Someone who is afraid of taking the test, is someone who is lying.  His words.... Happy to link the video.

I will eagerly await your response.

I do wonder how your customers can believe anything you say if the answer is that you're lying.  In the alternative, I wonder how any of your customers can believe your sincerity, or confidence in your test, if you simply don't believe the accuracy rates; but that would make you a liar and a charlatan.  Because if you don't believe in the accuracy, and that is your reason for not taking the test, does that not mean you're posting the accuracy rates, so you can dupe people into using you?

Very interesting behavior for someone who sells a "lie detector test," no?  Glad she is not a doctor. 
Joe

Joe McCarthy

Point in fact.

If the Texas examiners like Maria and TAPE would just leave me alone and stop spreading lies, I wouldn't have to come here is state the truth. 

What shocks me, is people are so eager to listen to unprovable lies, over the documented truth.


Joe

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