American Polygraph Association Elections: Race for president-elect pits Daniel Mangan against Patrick O'Burke

[Dan Mangan]

Thanks just the same, but I'm not interested.

By the way, chart interpretations alone are a false form of quality assurance.

The entire video must be reviewed, among a number of other things.

[Dan Mangan]

I would never allow charts to be reviewed by anyone who is not a certified graduate of an accredited polygraph school.

[Ex Member]

Dan to be real with you, asking someone like me if I have been to polygraph school is like asking a commander of the space shuttle if he has a private pilots license. Without empirical data, all you will be is argumentative noise emanating from the bully pulpit. Good luck.

[Dan Mangan]

Okay, Commander.

I'll have to take your word for it.

As for a winning communications strategy, we'll be using something new to the polygraph indu$try: victim impact statements.

[Ex Member]

victim impact statements.

You are in the right place for that; they are manifold here in AP.

[Dan Mangan]

Ark, when interpreting polygraph charts, how much weight do you give to EDA complexity?

[Ex Member]

Not much, although it is one of two secondary features, duration tends to be more diagnostic.

[George W. Maschke]

Not much, although it is one of two secondary features, duration tends to be more diagnostic.

None of the physiological indices measured by the polygraph are "diagnostic" with respect to deception.

[Ex Member]

I agree George. It is only an indication of sympathetic arousal. Dan is just probing because he is bewildered that someone like me would know more than those who teach the polygraph schools.

[Dan Mangan]

Commander, I'm not bewildered in the least. Bemused, certainly, but not bewildered. Polygraph is seductive, and attracts all types.

[Ex Member]

Dan, If you want to effectively challenge me, you'll have to rise above the 320 hour barber school.

Here's one for you:

What is the value added in determining if your examinee is a beta or an alpha responder?

[Dan Mangan]

The value-add proposition in determining the alpha/beta responder issue manifests itself primarily in the interpretation of the cardio channel, of course.

[Ex Member]

All manifestations are not of value. I was hoping for more elaboration on its utility to ascertain whether an arousal was precipitated by a genuine OR or from the Startle Response. I suggest you spend less time in vitriol and more in expanding your knowledge base. You will need it once assuming the bully pulpit.

[Ex Member]

I am flying out on a transcontinental flight today. My posting will be spotty. Peace.

[Dan Mangan]

Thanks Ark, but showcasing a command of the theoretical effluvia that comprises the bullshit that is colloquially known as "polygraph science" is by no means a pivotal factor in the ideological insurgency that will fundamentally transform both the polygraph indu$try and the APA.

Safe travels.