Polygraph Place Bulletin Board Private Forum

[Doug Williams]

Oh, so you are THAT Joe McCarthy.  I really enjoy it when you guys start fighting each other like a couple of whores fighting over who works the johns on a street corner.  It was very entertaining to watch you argue about who gets to poly the next sex offender!  And then to get the court involved in your little territorial dispute - hilarious!  There was also something about defamation wasn't there?  That would be the classic example of the pot calling the kettle black! Here's a button for you - 

You go ahead and do that.  But I am done with you.  You are of no or little use to me.

Oh and no need to look through anything, it is common knowledge I am Joe McCarthy and my gripe with PP is no secret.  I don't hide behind screen names; I let others play that game.

No go play in a funnel cloud somewhere.  Until I can find a use for you, I'm done.

[Joe McCarthy]

Not anywhere near as hilarious as insulting GN one day and then riding his coat tails today.  Wow you are predictable as the countermeasures you teach.  To think people actually pay you for what they can get here for free.  Think you maybe the biggest charlatan in polygraph today.

[Joe McCarthy]

By the what happened to your polygraph examiners license Doug?

[Doug Williams]

Yes, George and I have set aside our differences, and have united in one final push to finally stop the madness called "lie detection".  That is the only thing I ever had on my "bucket list".

But I do offer a few things that are unique to me and for which I charge a modest fee - practice tests, personal training, email and phone consultation - 12 hours a day, seven days a week.

And you are right - I was once the "biggest charlatan in polygraph".  But I, unlike you, have changed my ways and, like the Superman that I have now become, I am fighting for TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY! 

Well maybe not Superman, but I am fighting for the same things - which are the antithesis of what you represent - and I have had some super victories in my battle against the evil Orwellian instrument of torture called the "lie detector".  I was instrumental in putting about 10,000 polygraph conmen out of business with the passage of the EPPA, and it won't be long before the rest of you will have to find other work too - your days are numbered.   

Not anywhere near as hilarious as insulting GN one day and then riding his coat tails today.  Wow you are predictable as the countermeasures you teach.  To think people actually pay you for what they can get here for free.  Think you maybe the biggest charlatan in polygraph today.

[Joe McCarthy]

Yet here we are and you are now relegated to helping sex offender try to get away with the things they do.  How proud your mommy must be. 

Oh and answer the question.  What happened to your polygraph license?

[Joe McCarthy]

It's a simple question

[Doug Williams]

I have accomplished my goal, I baited you into outing yourself - now people can make their own judgments about who you are and what you say.  So I'm done with you after this post. 

As to my license, the last time I saw it, it was circling the bowl getting flushed down with all the rest of the shit - and yours is soon to follow.   

Yet here we are and you are now relegated to helping sex offender try to get away with the things they do.  How proud your mommy must be. 

Oh and answer the question.  What happened to your polygraph license?

[Joe McCarthy]

Oh dougie, you have a nice day.  off you go now. 

Oh and lets not make the mistake of thinking that you baited me out.  I never hide behind a screen name and always speak plainly and honestly; which is more than I can say for other people.

And your statement is, from what I heard partly right.  Your license did go into the toilet.  Too bad you can't be honest about what happened.

But that is what liars do, they deflect and avoid answering direct questions directly or honestly. 

Have a good day dougie, thanks for the entertainment.

[Ex Member]

I don't think a "polygraph license" is of any significance; it would be no different than having an "astrologers license." In fact, why not have a "polygraph countermeasures license?"; one could show it to the polygraph operator and say "there ya go, now hook me up!"

[George W. Maschke]

For those who may not be familiar with the background, in 2008, Joseph McCarthy (the fighting irish) filed a lawsuit in Tarrant County, Texas airing the local polygraph community's dirty laundry. See the message thread, Unlawful Referral Scheme Alleged in Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex Post-Conviction Sex Offender Polygraph Testing.

This earned McCarthy the polygraph community's enmity, as you'll see in the above message thread and also, in the Polygraph Place archive. See the message threads "Is Joe McCarthy a Moron" in folder 15 and "Joe McCarthy's Texas Lawsuit" in folder 13.

[Ex Member]

What was the ultimate decision of the court? Did Joe prevail?

[Joe McCarthy]

Sadly, I had a lawyer that was not ready for a fight like this and some major procedural errors on her part left me defenseless to a summery judgment.  I was never allowed my day in court which is the way the polygraph examiners wanted it. 

I did not prevail in court, but I did prevail in business when I learned to become as cut throat as the cut throats. 

The one valuable lesson I did learned is that NO ONE ever wins a lawsuit.  Even if you win, you lose.  A lot happened afterward; with forged documents surfacing that I knew nothing of, settlements that I was not privy to, it was a plain mess.  Just a mess.

The harassment by the defendants continued and the dirty tricks.  TAPE being the worst of the dirty tricksters.  But thats ok, the truth always gets revealed d in the end.  This leak shows the type of people I had to deal with.  Underhanded, backstabbing, and gleeful at the pain of others (with a few acceptions).

They cannot run from their own words.  Now they have to deal with what they say and the things they do.  I have no sympathy or empathy for them.

I will say there is a lot more underhandedness than what is seen here.  But that I will deal with when the time is right and in the appropriate forum 

[Ex Member]

Interesting comments from the polygraph place forum. I'd like to hear Pailryder and Sarge's comments:

"Pailryder is an obsequious twit who claims to be a polygraph examiner, but says only what is useful to GM. He occassionaly tries, inauthentically, to promote some form of polygraph, just to preserve impressions. He's really a disgusting fake. I'm also suspicious of his origin - with a registration date during 2006, pre-dating Palerider, though not a single post until recently. It would be quite easy for an Administrator to create a user, and then manually alter the registration date in the MySQL database upon which YABB runs. Pailryder's written voice has the same emasculated need for testosterone replacement as the GM and Lethe character. You'll notice this voice emerge whenever GM's characters are attempting to be sincere, thoughtful and intelligent."

"and the respected Sergeant1107 - is a dimensionless character. he's a one-note-song, who's carefully crafted mantra is remarkably similar to that of GM himself. He claims to work at the Pentagon (BS), and claims to have failed three polygraphs while telling the truth."

[pailryder]

Arkhangelsk

Yes, it's true.  I have been called a fake and a fraud by both sides of this board, but my doctor did provide the testosterone replacement therapy!

[Twoblock]

Arkhangelsk

I have to disagree with you. Sarg. 1107 has always identified his work as a sergeant with a Connecticut, I believe, LE department. I have never read where he said that he worked at the Pentagon.