2 year anniversary

[Jeffery]

1. No WMDs found because Putin and Chirac tipped off Hussein.  At least Hussein can't conitue slaughtering and torturing thousands of innocent civilians. And this was stopped by a government you castigate for petty  human rights violations.  Very contradictory don't you think?

How many children have been killed by US bombs?  How many civilians by (acting illegaly and by no means representative of the whole) US Troops?  http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/18/murtha.marines/

Before you twist that and attpemt to "discredit" me in your eyes as an antiwar liberal, I'm not.

But, I'll stand by my original comment -- the US IC (who beileve strongly in polygraphics) also beileved strongly there were WMDs in Iraq.  We now know both of these beliefs to be false.

2. Trial is still going on so what's your point?
3. You conveniently forgot to mention that it was a hunting acccident that is common.

Common?  How often does the number 2 leader of the free world shoot soembody in the face?

4. I didn't see all the evidence in this matter.  In any event he isn't there anymore.

So is this a polygraph success or failure (the Porter Goss situation?)

5.I agree that higher ups have to bear more responsibility and possible punishment if guilty.  Our country made this public and the matter was investigated.  The violations  were not as serouus as the atrocities committed by China, Korea and Hussein's past regime so why don't you focus on condemning those countries if human rights violations seriously bother you.

China, North Korea and Sadaam are not examples our country should aspire to.  Comparing our ethics to theirs is idiotic.

6. I am not sure it has been proven that the NSA or their agents violated any law.
7. It has not been determined if she was an undercover agent at the time which is a possible defense to any prosecution.
8. Are the secret prisons illegal because you don't like them? Reporters  questioned for any information about leaks is not intimidation.  They are no different than anyone else.

NSA:  I guess you blelieve Clinotn "didn't inhale" and "didn't have sex with that woman".  

You have a nice day too.

Cheap rationalizations.  These are all flagrant violations of law and morality and the entire world knows it.

[Jeffery]

8675:

The answer is yes.  I'm a big proponent of kicking in doors to make an arrest when warrantless search and seizures are allowed by law.

Regarding your statement about not having been proven that one did NOT violate a law. I am also a strong proponent  of  innocent until  proven guilty.

What happens when you overstep and kick the door in of somebody who was innocent?  

Do you also support the rights of citizens to protect their lives and property?  

Serving no-knock warrants/warrantless kicking must be a VERY risky business...

[retcopper]

Jeffery:

To answer your question,  "What is a liberal"?  You're postings here seem to define a liberal perfectly.  Integrity, loyalty, comon sense and decency are the  virtues I try to ascribe to.  I don't try to impress anyone by making "intellectual comments" to win "intellectual arguments" on this site.