Family Overseas and CIA decision

Started by opp, Jan 05, 2006, 09:20 PM

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kockstar

Quote from: underlyingtruth on Jun 26, 2006, 02:28 PM


I think he wanted you to visit the link:
http://www.garageband.com/artist/cockstar
LOL
wtf is that... lol.. those guys stole the name for thier band from something that nikki sixx made.. the same thing i did...

NSAreject

Kockstar,

  Well, then debate it with:

http://www.securityinstruction.com/ADR/dcid64/dcid64T.htm

Personnel Security Standards and Procedures Governing Eligibility for Access to Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI)

5. Personnel Security Standards.

     a. The individual requiring access to SCI must be a US citizen.

     b. The individual's immediate family must also be US citizens.

6. Exceptions to Personnel Security Standards.

c. Exceptions to the US citizenship requirement for individuals to be accessed to SCI and their immediate family members shall require certification of a compelling need. This exception should be based upon a specific national security requirement and a certification of compelling need.



kockstar

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 28, 2006, 01:28 PMKockstar,

 Well, then debate it with:

http://www.securityinstruction.com/ADR/dcid64/dcid64T.htm

Personnel Security Standards and Procedures Governing Eligibility for Access to Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI)

5. Personnel Security Standards.

    a. The individual requiring access to SCI must be a US citizen.

    b. The individual's immediate family must also be US citizens.

6. Exceptions to Personnel Security Standards.

c. Exceptions to the US citizenship requirement for individuals to be accessed to SCI and their immediate family members shall require certification of a compelling need. This exception should be based upon a specific national security requirement and a certification of compelling need.


yep check seciton "c"

thanks for looking it up.

NSAreject

Kockstar,
 
   You are obviously not worth the time-of-day; you are probably a disgruntled polygrapher.  The point of the article, is that getting an exception is not easy, and I am sure that most private contractors would not be willing to go that route - thus, I would consider it, generally, to be a clearance killer.  My boss, even being a high-level program manager, had a difficult time getting cleared.  Think and say, as you may.  Yes, I am stupid, for playing into your hand...

kockstar

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 28, 2006, 09:58 PMKockstar,
You are obviously not worth the time-of-day;
why? coz your wrong? coz you yourself even proved yourself wrong? you dont know what your even talking about here... do you even have a foriegn born spouse and an SCI? I do. i know your wrong.

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 28, 2006, 09:58 PM
you are probably a disgruntled polygrapher.
hahaha your so funny!! hahah i must be a disgruntled polygrapher.. you nerd.

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 28, 2006, 09:58 PM
 The point of the article, is that getting an exception is not easy, and I am sure that most private contractors would not be willing to go that route
now your speaking for most private contractors? first you made a dumb blanket statement and now you "am sure that most private contractors"

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 28, 2006, 09:58 PM
I would consider it, generally, to be a clearance killer.
oh now its "generally to be a clearance killer"..  alot different than your first statement you made...

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 28, 2006, 09:58 PM
My boss, even being a high-level program manager, had a difficult time getting cleared.
but did he? as did MANY others.. thats why there is such a thing as a statment of compelling need. to get around that

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 28, 2006, 09:58 PM
Think and say, as you may.
::)

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 28, 2006, 09:58 PM
Yes, I am stupid, for playing into your hand...
no your stupid for making blanket statements about something you obviously knew nothing about but putting it out like was fact.

NSAreject

#21
Seen this situation more than once; we had a secretary
with British relatives, that was able to get her TS, but
NSA would not clear her.  I have been in this business
for many years, and yes, foreign relatives and foreign
immediate family members can be clearance killers.
And, I do have current ISA TS/SCI and active ISA Secret,
both of which, require US citizenship for the above,
or a request for an exception has to be made.  My
point is that requests for exceptions are NOT
guarenteed.  Now, is there a point to all this ranting ?
Looks like we have another, I-SMELL-BS...

EosJupiter

NSAReject,

The Rantings and arguements sound like our old friend ODIN / BOSTON, back for another round of "Guess My New Handle".  Just an observation.

Regards  ....
Theory into Reality !!

NSAreject

EosJupiter,

 Thanks for your support.  Let's hope, I pissed off some
polygrapher at NSA, or at polygraphplace.com.  Alas,
he will not deter my support for this site - helping
others from becoming victims of the polygraph
interrogation !

Oh yes, after I got kicked off polygraphplace.com, I
contacted them directly, via email, asking why my posts
were removed, but never received an answer.

EosJupiter

Quote from: NSAreject on Jun 29, 2006, 03:09 PMEosJupiter,

Thanks for your support.  Let's hope, I pissed off some
polygrapher at NSA, or at polygraphplace.com.  Alas,
he will not deter my support for this site - helping
others from becoming victims of the polygraph
interrogation !

Oh yes, after I got kicked off polygraphplace.com, I
contacted them directly, via email, asking why my posts
were removed, but never received an answer.

NSAreject,

Just in the fact that Polygraphplace.com edits outside criticisms and bans people from their board speaks volumes on their profession. Every profession worthy of working accepts and adapts constructive comments. I always did find it disconcerting that after any one of my polygraphs, we were told never to discuss or debate the procedure and keep it to ourselves. Just another ploy to keep their secrets from being revealed and defeated. As far as pissing off polygraphers, everyone needs a hobby. Most of the senior members of this board have been quoted one time or another at various polygraph association meetings around the country. Proof that they fear and dislike anything having to do with this website.

Regards ...
Theory into Reality !!

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