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[Skeptic]

Skeptic,

With, all due respect, I believe I did stick to the point. I merely took advantage of sie's word usage to re-iterate the same point that is challenged over and over again.  I thought it was a creative way to add a little interest in a topic in which we should quickly lose interest (since nothing new comes out of the argument over the "challenge").  If my methodology seemed mean-spirited, then I apologize to both you and sie.  

I'll save mean-spiritedness for my rebuttals of personal attacks from Beech.  He seems to take it almost as well as he dishes it out.

Regards.

Actually, I'd say it's not mean-spirited so much as it violates standard "rules of engagement" for online debate.  Long experience shows that such flames almost always result in the degeneration of a thread of discussion from the relevant to the irrelevant.  Rather like the inevitable death of a debate after someone brings up a "Hitler" or "Nazi" comparison.

Do as you will, of course -- it was clever way to turn a phrase.  Perhaps I'm just tired of so little substance in these discussions, when I believe the issue deserves more serious scrutiny.

Skeptic

[sie]

Wow!  I can't believe we've revived this old thread.  Anyway, I could not resist this reply.


We do EXCEPT this challenge!!  It is EXCEPTED from a list of serious concerns with which examiners, national security professionals, and law enforcement professionals have to deal each day.  And, I do take EXCEPTION to such comments that examiners are afraid of this challenge.  I (and many others like me) ACCEPT this challenge each day, but not in Drew or George's forum...rather in real world investigations wherein we seek to identify criminals, and eliminate the innocent, even if they try to use countermeasures!

Regards!

The best counter to countermeasures would be the revelation of the ability to detect them without any uncertainty. Perhaps thats why you except rather than accept the challenge here. Because our intelligence community lacks this ability. (BTW, this would be a perfect venue and such a revelation would surely bolster National Security not threaten it.)

My Country is at war and the people who wish to harm us know our weaknesses and it appears polygraph use is one. If what this site has to say about countermeasures is true that our intelligence community is unable to detect the use of countermeasures than this window of vulnerability should be shut. Do you not agree?

Or is the perservation of the tool more important?