Failed a polygraph today

Started by estrella, Aug 27, 2009, 09:45 PM

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George W. Maschke

Quote from: estrellita on Aug 28, 2009, 06:47 PMYes he wrote a statement that said that I might have done it one more time. He made me doubt myself. When I finished signing it he told me, so where did you do it?! I told him I told you I didn't do it. I now realize how stupid it was on my part to sign this. I know there was not another incident, I would remember. He even told me I was probably drunk that is why I don't remember, I reminded him that I don't drink. I called the lady in charge of my application, I explained to her what happened I already submitted an appeal, but it will take a while she said before I hear back. What do I have to lose nothing but my reputation

Estrella,

Indeed it was a terrible mistake to sign that statement. When your polygrapher told you that "it would be best to make a statement," what he didn't say was that it would be best for him, not for you. Your polygrapher will no doubt have represented it as corroboration of his polygraph results: you failed the polygraph and then "confessed" to having been less than fully candid regarding your marijuana use.

Unfortunately, there is little recourse. Your appeal will certainly be rejected, and you'll be barred for life from FBI employment. You'll want to file a Privacy Act request for your FBI records.
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T.M. Cullen

#17
No apology necessary!

Remember, we've all been there.

TC
"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

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T.M. Cullen

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QuoteLanders

Indeed, I haven't read such a hate filled post since my old friend, Lethe, last spewed venom.  Will the brute, evil deceiver and godless soul Sergeant1107 reply?  Wait, he is a police officer and thus, a pathological liar!

Getting a little emotional aren't we?

Not all polygraph interrogators are pathological liars.  But polygraphers DO routinely lie and ARE deceptive, while conducting polygraphs (most interrogators DO resort to lying and deception when they deem it necessary). In fact, the term "deception indicated" to describe autonomic fluctuations depicted  on a polygraph chart IS DECEPTIVE.  And probably the biggest lie told in a polygraph interrogation room.

SA Hacking's (LieBabyCryBaby), or was it Mr. Van Arsdale's (Sancho Panza), claim that polygraphers do don't use that term was also a pathological lie. 

Mr. Louis Rovner's (former APA higher up) claim, that GM works directly for Iran, which was made to a polygraph subject during a freaking polygraph,  was also a pathological lie.

What's the old saying?  Pot calling the kettle "black".

Used car salesmen, lawyers, politicians, con men, all have a reputation for being liars.  It's not entirely fair, but there is some truth to it.
"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University

Sergeant1107

Quote from: landers on Aug 28, 2009, 07:06 PMYou must realize that police officer are pathological liars.
That's an ignorant statement.

It is no more accurate to say "police officer are pathological liars" than it is to say tall people are pathological liars, or plumbers are pathological liars, or any other group of diverse individuals are pathological liars.
Lorsque vous utilisez un argumentum ad hominem, tout le monde sait que vous êtes intellectuellement faillite.

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