CONTROL QUESTION HELP !!!

Started by gtstang99, Jul 20, 2008, 09:29 PM

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gtstang99

I was wondering, when i am asked the control questions, im i supposed to lie and use one of the counter measures or am i supposed to say the truth and use a counter measure? Example: "have you ever cheated in school" i really have, so am i supposed to respond yes or no?

T.M. Cullen

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When asked a control question, the examiner wants you to lie so they can measure the "response", and then compare it to your response to relevant questions.  If you react more to relevant questions than controls, you fail.  So you want to lie on control questions (as the examiner expects) but artificially RAISE your reaction.

This pertains only to CQT formated tests

Check out "the lie behind the lie dectector" under countermeasures, for more info.

TC

P.S.  If you DO use countermeasures, just realize that you are a butt twitching traitor, and a huge threat to western democracy!   :D
"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University

George W. Maschke

gstang99,

As T.M. Cullen correctly noted, polygraphers fully expect that the examinee's answers to probable-lie control questions will be less than fully honest. Whether or not one's answer is true, one should provide the expected answer to such control questions. For example, if the control question is "Did you ever cheat in school/college?" the expected answer is "No." And that is the answer you should provide. If the control question is, "Are you a truly honest person?" the expected answer is "Yes." And that is the answer you should provide.
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gtstang99g

Thats clear. Thank you so much for your quick respoce.

DStarbuck

I think that the book should be updated to clearly indicate as you just said George.  I just posted a question similar to this, sorry!

Lethe

Here's another tip.  If there is one question that you can't classify as either a control or a relevant, ask for clarification on that question, get him to rephrase it, et cetera.  Once you're squared away on that question, before running the test the polygrapher will bring up another question.  If that question is a control, then the question you weren't sure about and brought up is a relevant; if the question the polygrapher brings up is a relevant, then the question you weren't sure about and brought up is a control.

Why does this work?  Simple.  By you calling attention to a question, you will have a heightened reaction to that question, whether or not you're lying when you answer it.  They can't prevent this heightened reaction, but they can counter it by heightening your reaction to another question.  If you bring up a control question (and therefore heighten your reaction to it) they will need to counter that by heightening your reaction to a relevant question.  And vice versa.

Of course, if there are two questions you can't figure out and you bring up one and then the polygrapher brings up the other you may not be any better off, but you do know that they're not both relevants or both controls, which may be of assistance.

This technique should also be added to the next edition of TLBTLD.  In my humble opinion, anyway.
Is former APA President Skip Webb evil or just stupid?

Is former APA President Ed Gelb an idiot or does the polygraph just not work?

Did you know that polygrapher Sackett doesn't care about detecting deception to relevant questions?

George W. Maschke

Quote from: 6F46574B46230 on Dec 02, 2008, 11:16 PMThis technique should also be added to the next edition of TLBTLD. In my humble opinion, anyway.

I wouldn't suggest this approach as I think it relies too much on not-necessarily-reliable assumptions about how a polygrapher will proceed in response to an examinee's raising questions about the scope of a question. Moreover, the strategy you suggest could also have the side effect of making the polygraph operator suspicious that the examinee is hiding something in connection with the question. If the question is in fact a relevant one, that cannot bode well for the examinee.
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