Have TS-SCI, is that affected if I fail Polygraph?

[Ren]

I have a TS-SCI from when I was in the military, I know work for a defense contractor and some people in my new job get a CIA level security clearance.  My question is if I went up for the security clearance and failed would it affect my TS-SCI clearance?  Also the people I have talked to about it haven't really talked about having to take a Poly or anything, is it required if you already have a TS-SCI?

[George W. Maschke]

Failing a CIA polygraph has the potential to affect your current security clearance. The agency that granted your security clearance (presumably DoD) will at some point -- if not immediately, then at the latest when your security clearance comes up for periodic review -- be made aware of your polygraph results. A security-clearance holder who has failed a polygraph given by another agency will probably be questioned about it by background investigators, and might be asked to submit to a lie detector test administered by one of its own polygraph operators.

With regard to your second question, not all positions that require a TS/SCI level clearance require a polygraph examination. But it is commonly required for CIA contracts.

[ethan]

Hi George,

back in 2002, I applied but was not successful in getting a job at the CIA.  I received a COE and took a polygraph.  I think i passed as i did not have the take a followup.  

Now i am currently employed by the DOD and have a secret clearance and am currently up for a ssbi for a ts upgrade.  Since 2002, i have had one periodic investigation done for my secret clearance, passed as my NAC check out fine.

my question is, when they conduct a NAC, do they check the the information I divulged during my CIA poly?  will the CIA share my charts with the OPM investigator?

thanks in advance

ethan

[George W. Maschke]

Ethan,

I don't know the intricacies of how, under what circumstances, and to what extent the CIA shares applicant information with other federal agencies. But information sharing clearly takes place. Another participant on this forum has mentioned that the CIA disclosed his sexual history to another agency, despite assurances that all information provided in the polygraph suite would be kept confidential.

[Lethe]

Another participant on this forum has mentioned that the CIA disclosed his sexual history to another agency, despite assurances that all information provided in the polygraph suite would be kept confidential.

Those bastards.  Don't believe their lies!

A polygrapher would lie to his own mother if he thought it'd impress his superiors, like they're gonna waste two seconds worrying about lying to you and screwing you over?  Not likely.  These people have convinced themselves that they are society's savior and without them evil will run rampant throughout the world.  You can justify anything once you've programmed yourself with a belief like that.

[applicant2010]

 hey everyone, i'm just curious what a failed DoD poly will mean for my TS-SCI clearance that I currently hold in my current position?  I work for another agency that does not conduct poly examinations.  does anyone know if they actively "reach out" to the home agency to screw over the employee?  Alternatively, obviously that precludes you from getting a future job with an agency that requires a poly, but what about other agencies?  Those that require S or TS clearances, but do not do polys.   Would this have to be asked on the SF-86?  Do agencies that don't deal in polys even ask about such things?