And the truth will set you free...NOT!

Started by notfair, Jul 19, 2008, 08:17 PM

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notfair

I took my poly for the first time for a police department in AZ. Everyone just said tell the truth and you'll do fine. Well, that didn't work!

Needless to say, I failed the test. I wished I knew about this site before I went because I made some mistakes. It was my first and was nervous but tried my best to say to myself "I got this; there is nothing to hide."

Even though I didn't lie about my drug use, that's the question I mostly failed but he did say I pretty much failed the whole test. Just as is the booklet, the examiner said I was failing the lying to Authority and love ones questions....damn LIAR! ;D >:( I know the truth now.

I have never used, sold, or transported drugs but the man I was with 15 years ago for a SHORT time (less then a year) did. I was a minor at the time. The question was asked why that questioned bothered me. I said it didn't. But with further interrogations saying I can't help you if you don't say anything I did mention some of the activities my ex was involved in and I was present sometimes but never done it myself. I asked what does this have to do with me? I thought this is about what I have done. He had me write a statement and sign it as did he so he could pass it along to my background investigator. I talked to my Background Investigator and said he will talk to the polygrapher to see if he will re-test me.

I hope I didn't blow my chances by giving a statement even though it wasn't about me. :-/

I am pursuing other departments and hope to land PD job in any city. Now that I know the truth behind this, it makes me sick to my stomach but am still worried about passing another poly test. :-[


T.M. Cullen

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QuoteHe had me write a statement and sign it as did he so he could pass it along to my background investigator.

You are under no obligation to write out a signed statement to a polygrapher.  His job is to get as much info out of you as possible, not to test your truthfulness.  If you were being questioned by police as some sort of suspect (and in a polygraph you are a SUSPECT), would an attorney want you to sign a statement without first seeking his/her advice?   No, he would tell you to just answer their questions truthfully, but don't volunteer information!

Were the questions really bothering you?  Or just the fact he was calling you a liar?  If the questions were not bothering you, and you told him that, repeatedly, that should be the end of it.  Just tell him you've answered his questions and tell him to just do whatever he's gotta do Mr. Polygrapher dude!

 It's like being in a auto dealership and the salesman is badgering you about buying some extras you don't need or want.  They are hoping to wear you down and get you to "GIVE IN" so you can get outta there.  

QuoteI am pursuing other departments and hope to land PD job in any city. Now that I know the truth behind this, it makes me sick to my stomach but am still worried about passing another poly test

This has a way of following you around.  Most LE agencies you apply for will ask if you have ever taken a poly, and where.

Whatever happens, just learn from your experience and WARN EVERYONE YOU KNOW!  Get the word out.  That is what this site is all about!

TC

P.S.  If you were a pathological liar and had no belief whatsoever in the validity of the test, rather than being a truthful applicant wanting to cooperate in every way, you'd probably have passed.

P.P.S.  Forget about a retest.  People rarely pass them, because polygraphers don't like having their powers questioned and are predisposed to fail you.
"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University

notfair

First I would like to thank antipolygraph.com and the author of "The lie behind the lie detector" for exposing the truth!!! I have made it my mission to forward this site to all those I know.

Just an update on my situation. The police department gave me another chance to take the polygraph and it was with the same person the first time. This time I had a secret weapon that this site has provided me. I went in and past my test the second time around.

I told some people in the gym about failing me first polygraph then later told them I past the second. About a week later one of the members came up to me and said they failed the poly at the same department. I forwarded this info to him and he will be retesting soon.

Thank you again for this website  and I will be sure to donate towards your cause. I am still in disbelief that law enforcement agencies are relying on such a rediculous device.

T.M. Cullen

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sorry, accidental double post.
"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University

T.M. Cullen

#4
I am glad you see this site as "exposing the truth".

An anonymous polygrapher from a pro-polygraph site referred to those providing the infomation on this site as:

Quote.....those that seek to arm sex offenders and criminals of the state with manipulative false-propoganda....

http://www.polygraphplace.com/ubb/NonCGI/Forum10/HTML/000044.html

7th post down the thread

You are in a unique position now being a person with a firsthand experience with the polygraph.
"There is no direct and unequivocal connection between lying and these physiological states of arousal...(referring to polygraph)."

Dr. Phil Zimbardo, Phd, Standford University

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