DNA v. Polygraph

Started by nopolycop, Apr 03, 2008, 12:14 PM

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sackett

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Quote from: nopoly4me on Apr 04, 2008, 11:53 AM
Quote from: nopoly4me on Apr 04, 2008, 12:09 AM" Or maybe, just maybe, Gallego used the techniques outlined in TLBTLD to "beat" the examiner?!  It suprises me that no-one has made that particular claim.  You see, that is exactly what this board is all about, now isn't it?  Helping criminals, sex offenders and applicants "beat" the process...
Sackett


I'll go ahead and address your hyperbole too.

I don't see this board as existing to help anyone "beat" the process.  the board exists, as I understand it, to  serve as a catalyst to get the polygraph process removed from the screening process for LE and National Security employment.  Please correct me if I am wrong, GM...


Now whose rationalizing???

nopolycop

Quote from: sackett on Apr 04, 2008, 12:57 PM
Quote from: nopoly4me on Apr 04, 2008, 11:53 AM
Quote from: nopoly4me on Apr 04, 2008, 12:09 AM" Or maybe, just maybe, Gallego used the techniques outlined in TLBTLD to "beat" the examiner?!  It suprises me that no-one has made that particular claim.  You see, that is exactly what this board is all about, now isn't it?  Helping criminals, sex offenders and applicants "beat" the process...
Sackett


I'll go ahead and address your hyperbole too.

I don't see this board as existing to help anyone "beat" the process.  the board exists, as I understand it, to  serve as a catalyst to get the polygraph process removed from the screening process for LE and National Security employment.  Please correct me if I am wrong, GM...


Now whose rationalizing???

Here is the official statement from the following link, which a good investigator should have read a long time ago:

"AntiPolygraph.org seeks the complete abolishment of polygraph "testing" from the American workplace. Now that the National Academy of Sciences has conducted an exhaustive study and found polygraph screening to be invalid, and even dangerous to national security, Congress should extend the protections of the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act to all Americans."

http://antipolygraph.org/ceppa.shtml


"Although the degree of reliability of polygraph evidence may depend upon a variety of identifiable factors, there is simply no way to know in a particular case whether a polygraph examiner's Conclusion is accurate, because certain doubts and uncertainties plague even the best polygraph exams."  (Justice Clarence Thomas writing in United States v. Scheffer, 523 U.S. 303, 118 S.Ct. 1261, 140 L.Ed.2d 413, 1998.)

Sergeant1107

Quote from: nopoly4me on Apr 04, 2008, 12:55 PMWhat makes you think those tests administered that day were not done properly?  Simple and repetitive whining on this board does not make what you support true in every circumstance.  

Mistakes are made.  Even in DNA, drug, polygraph testing, etc.  Nothing is absolute when humans are involved.  But to suggest that everything is all "a-whack" because you think so, or because of one recent example, doesn't hold water.

Sackett

I don't know if the other 4,000 tests done that day were done improperly and I have not claimed that they were.  You are the one making the claim that they were all done properly, so I am curious as to the basis for that claim.

Clearly, you have no reasonable or logical basis for your assertion.  If you did you likely would not have responded with the phrase "simple and repetetive whining."
Lorsque vous utilisez un argumentum ad hominem, tout le monde sait que vous êtes intellectuellement faillite.

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