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Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jul 27, 2020, 09:32 AMAs noted on the blog, Doug Williams' court-ordered three-year period of supervised release, which forbade him from participating in any "polygraph-related activity," expired on Sunday, 26 July 2020.
Williams is again free to teach people how to pass or beat a polygraph "test" and plans to resume doing so.
It is hard to see what public interest was served by his entrapment and imprisonment.
Williams is again free to teach people how to pass or beat a polygraph "test" and plans to resume doing so.
It is hard to see what public interest was served by his entrapment and imprisonment.
Posted by John M.
- Jul 26, 2017, 01:26 PMQuote from: George_Maschke on Jul 26, 2017, 11:59 AMDoug Williams left the federal prison camp at Florence, Colorado this morning and is on his way home:Hell Yeah! Congratulations Doug! I am confident that you will receive the justice that you seek.
Let's roll.
Posted by Wandersmann
- Jul 26, 2017, 01:08 PMQuote from: George_Maschke on Jul 25, 2017, 02:01 AMI have been in touch with Doug via the CorrLinks email service while he has been in prison, where he has not had access to websites. I sent him selected message threads and blog posts and posted his replies on his behalf. The court has not yet ruled on Doug's motion for modification of the terms of his supervised release.
Happy day for truth, justice, and the real American Way ! As far as the court, the judge has, in my opinion, proven herself to be too weak to contemplate government fallibility. I'm not crossing my fingers for a favorable ruling but hope the Doug can find a way forward regardless of the decision.
Posted by Aunty Agony
- Jul 26, 2017, 12:34 PMDoug looks stronger and happier than ever.
Aunty is only an imaginary avatar but if she were real she would want to have Doug's babies.
Aunty is only an imaginary avatar but if she were real she would want to have Doug's babies.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jul 26, 2017, 11:59 AMDoug Williams left the federal prison camp at Florence, Colorado this morning and is on his way home:
https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2017/07/26/polygraph-critic-doug-williams-freed-from-prison/
https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2017/07/26/polygraph-critic-doug-williams-freed-from-prison/
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jul 25, 2017, 02:01 AMQuoteGlad Doug is getting out. Can he go back to running his website, polygraph consultation business, and selling his book? How was doug able to have access to comment on this forum while he was in jail, or did he talk to George by phone? When I was in jail, I had no computer access and phone calls were monitored.
I have been in touch with Doug via the CorrLinks email service while he has been in prison, where he has not had access to websites. I sent him selected message threads and blog posts and posted his replies on his behalf. The court has not yet ruled on Doug's motion for modification of the terms of his supervised release.
Posted by Go Doug
- Jul 24, 2017, 11:08 PMGlad Doug is getting out. Can he go back to running his website, polygraph consultation business, and selling his book? How was doug able to have access to comment on this forum while he was in jail, or did he talk to George by phone? When I was in jail, I had no computer access and phone calls were monitored.
Jail makes you a better criminal, I have no respect for law or national security any more. I hope Doug and others will continue to teach people how the poly works as just an interrogation game of chance. I have been teaching people about it myself and opening their eyes to how it is all a psych game, but just in casual talk. I would like to see everyone prepared for the interrogation and accusations that are routine with a poly, so less and less confessions are given, and polygraphers start getting more pissed off because their secret has been outed.
Jail makes you a better criminal, I have no respect for law or national security any more. I hope Doug and others will continue to teach people how the poly works as just an interrogation game of chance. I have been teaching people about it myself and opening their eyes to how it is all a psych game, but just in casual talk. I would like to see everyone prepared for the interrogation and accusations that are routine with a poly, so less and less confessions are given, and polygraphers start getting more pissed off because their secret has been outed.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Jul 24, 2017, 08:15 AMDoug Williams is scheduled to be released from the federal prison camp in Florence, Colorado this Wednesday morning, 26 July 2017. 
The court has not yet ruled on his November 2016 motion for amendment of the terms of his upcoming three-year period of supervised release.
The court has not yet ruled on his November 2016 motion for amendment of the terms of his upcoming three-year period of supervised release.
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Feb 24, 2017, 03:31 AMQuote from: Doug_Williams on Feb 22, 2017, 01:24 PMQuote from: the_fighting_irish on Feb 21, 2017, 05:45 AMQuote from: Doug_Williams on Feb 19, 2017, 08:05 PMAs Dr. Maschke correctly states, this marks the first time that the government has admitted that I can teach a person to pass the polygraph test regardless of whether they are telling the truth or lying. I have said for almost forty years that if I can teach a person to control every tracing on the polygraph chart and ALWAYS pass, nervous or not, lying or not, no matter what, that is prima facie evidence that the polygraph is not a "lie detector". It defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless. I have much more to say in my reply to the government which Dr. Maschke will post when it is filed.
Doug, and I say this with all due respect, the "ALWAYS pass" thing, come on. They don't "ALWAYS" pass.
Now that being set aside. I am glad that you are well, and you got out of a very difficult time in your life. I take no joy in someone else's misery.
Actually, check that. There are a few I would take pleasure in seeing miserable, you are not one of them. We may disagree about a lot, but you've never taken things to a personal level with me.
You are quite correct Joe, they don't ALWAYS pass - not because they didn't produce a perfect "truthful" chart, but because polygraph operators often disregard the fact that the person did in fact produce a chart that should be scored as "NO DECEPTION INDICATED". It is an unfortunate fact that all too often polygraph operators call a person deceptive and "fail" them even though it is obvious from the chart tracings that they had told the truth - or at least what passes for the truth on the polygraph. But I can teach a person to do what they need to do to ALWAYS produce a "truthful" chart. It is very simple to teach a person to produce a reaction on the control questions and show no reaction on the relevant questions, but you are right, I cannot guarantee them that the polygraph operator will accurately report what he/she sees on the chart. I have taught thousands of people to "pass" the test and for the past 10 years I have used the AXCITON computerized polygraph instrument and in the last several years have used the scoring software which ALWAYS shows a reading of NO DECEPTION INDICATED.
Thanks for the classy (being sincere) response. Again, I am happy to see you well and heathy. With all sincerity
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Feb 24, 2017, 03:29 AMQuote from: Doug_Williams on Feb 21, 2017, 11:51 PMQuote from: Wandersmann on Feb 20, 2017, 01:25 PMYou are correct Doug. It defies logic and anyone with half-a-brain can see not only the logic but the PROOF in the anti-polygraph message. Our problem lies 100% with corruption. Corrupt lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats. Let's find one honest man or woman somewhere in authority to start turning things around.
Yes, greed and corruption are at the root of the problem with the polygraph. Perhaps a phone call and letter writing campaign to Pres. Trump would be effective. I cannot believe he would allow this to continue if he was made aware of the waste, fraud and abuse in the government polygraph program.
Don't even get me started with greed and corruption in the polygraph industry. I been fighting it for 10 years now
Posted by Doug Williams
- Feb 22, 2017, 01:24 PMQuote from: the_fighting_irish on Feb 21, 2017, 05:45 AMQuote from: Doug_Williams on Feb 19, 2017, 08:05 PMAs Dr. Maschke correctly states, this marks the first time that the government has admitted that I can teach a person to pass the polygraph test regardless of whether they are telling the truth or lying. I have said for almost forty years that if I can teach a person to control every tracing on the polygraph chart and ALWAYS pass, nervous or not, lying or not, no matter what, that is prima facie evidence that the polygraph is not a "lie detector". It defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless. I have much more to say in my reply to the government which Dr. Maschke will post when it is filed.
Doug, and I say this with all due respect, the "ALWAYS pass" thing, come on. They don't "ALWAYS" pass.
Now that being set aside. I am glad that you are well, and you got out of a very difficult time in your life. I take no joy in someone else's misery.
Actually, check that. There are a few I would take pleasure in seeing miserable, you are not one of them. We may disagree about a lot, but you've never taken things to a personal level with me.
You are quite correct Joe, they don't ALWAYS pass - not because they didn't produce a perfect "truthful" chart, but because polygraph operators often disregard the fact that the person did in fact produce a chart that should be scored as "NO DECEPTION INDICATED". It is an unfortunate fact that all too often polygraph operators call a person deceptive and "fail" them even though it is obvious from the chart tracings that they had told the truth - or at least what passes for the truth on the polygraph. But I can teach a person to do what they need to do to ALWAYS produce a "truthful" chart. It is very simple to teach a person to produce a reaction on the control questions and show no reaction on the relevant questions, but you are right, I cannot guarantee them that the polygraph operator will accurately report what he/she sees on the chart. I have taught thousands of people to "pass" the test and for the past 10 years I have used the AXCITON computerized polygraph instrument and in the last several years have used the scoring software which ALWAYS shows a reading of NO DECEPTION INDICATED.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Feb 22, 2017, 08:48 AMOn 21 February 2017, Doug Williams filed a reply to the U.S. government's opposition to his motion that he be allowed to engage in polygraph-related activities during his upcoming period of supervised release:
https://antipolygraph.org/litigation/doug-williams/doug-williams-reply-to-governments-opposition.pdf
As noted on the blog, Williams argues forcefully (and, I hope, effectively) why his freedom of speech should not be curtailed.
https://antipolygraph.org/litigation/doug-williams/doug-williams-reply-to-governments-opposition.pdf
As noted on the blog, Williams argues forcefully (and, I hope, effectively) why his freedom of speech should not be curtailed.
Posted by Doug Williams
- Feb 21, 2017, 11:51 PMQuote from: Wandersmann on Feb 20, 2017, 01:25 PMYou are correct Doug. It defies logic and anyone with half-a-brain can see not only the logic but the PROOF in the anti-polygraph message. Our problem lies 100% with corruption. Corrupt lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats. Let's find one honest man or woman somewhere in authority to start turning things around.
Yes, greed and corruption are at the root of the problem with the polygraph. Perhaps a phone call and letter writing campaign to Pres. Trump would be effective. I cannot believe he would allow this to continue if he was made aware of the waste, fraud and abuse in the government polygraph program.
Posted by Joe McCarthy
- Feb 21, 2017, 05:45 AMQuote from: Doug_Williams on Feb 19, 2017, 08:05 PMAs Dr. Maschke correctly states, this marks the first time that the government has admitted that I can teach a person to pass the polygraph test regardless of whether they are telling the truth or lying. I have said for almost forty years that if I can teach a person to control every tracing on the polygraph chart and ALWAYS pass, nervous or not, lying or not, no matter what, that is prima facie evidence that the polygraph is not a "lie detector". It defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless. I have much more to say in my reply to the government which Dr. Maschke will post when it is filed.
Doug, and I say this with all due respect, the "ALWAYS pass" thing, come on. They don't "ALWAYS" pass.
Now that being set aside. I am glad that you are well, and you got out of a very difficult time in your life. I take no joy in someone else's misery.
Actually, check that. There are a few I would take pleasure in seeing miserable, you are not one of them. We may disagree about a lot, but you've never taken things to a personal level with me.
Posted by Wandersmann
- Feb 20, 2017, 01:25 PMQuote from: Doug_Williams on Feb 19, 2017, 08:05 PMIt defies logic that the government continues to use the polygraph while at the same time admitting it is worthless.
You are correct Doug. It defies logic and anyone with half-a-brain can see not only the logic but the PROOF in the anti-polygraph message. Our problem lies 100% with corruption. Corrupt lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats. Let's find one honest man or woman somewhere in authority to start turning things around.