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Posted by Wandersmann
 - Mar 28, 2017, 09:24 PM
Quote from: xenonman on Mar 27, 2017, 11:52 PMI'm sure that the AMA would never allow that to happen.

You're right Xenonman.  The people running the AMA had married parents that taught them right from wrong and the virtue of loyalty going both ways in an organization, unlike the reptiles >:( that run our government.
Posted by xenonman
 - Mar 27, 2017, 11:52 PM
Quote from: Wandersmann on Mar 27, 2017, 05:18 PMBetter yet, let's just polygraph the doctor.  If he doesn't pass the polygraph then he loses his license to practice medicine.

I'm sure that the AMA would never allow that to happen.   :-? ::)
Posted by Wandersmann
 - Mar 27, 2017, 05:18 PM
Quote from: Arkhangelsk on Mar 27, 2017, 03:55 PMIf the police suspect you may have been pushing your prescription medications, then George is right, you need a lawyer, your doctor too.

Better yet, let's just polygraph the doctor.  If he doesn't pass the polygraph then he loses his license to practice medicine.  That is exactly what happens to honest patriots in the intelligence community every day.  Let's spread this fun around.  Everyone in our society needs to experience it.  Then it will be outlawed for sure. 
Posted by Ex Member
 - Mar 27, 2017, 03:55 PM
QuoteI filed out a police report of my medication had been stolen from me and I signed a paper saying everything I said was the truth

What you omitted seems to be key to your situation.

What kind of drug was it? Was it oxycodone or some other drug which has a high value on the black market?

Your use of passive voice is interesting, "had been stolen." Who stole it?

How did the thief get access to it? burglary?, purse/backpack snatching? or?

Did you file the police report immediately upon noticing the medication was stolen?---or only after someone else had gotten into trouble with the police?

If the police suspect you may have been pushing your prescription medications, then George is right, you need a lawyer, your doctor too.
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - Mar 27, 2017, 12:23 AM
QuoteI filed out a police report of my medication had been stolen from me and I signed a paper saying everything I said was the truth and now I got a call saying they want me to come in and take a CVSA test down at the station. What if the test says I failed it when I am actually telling the truth? I have bad nerves anyways around cops. I don't want to take the test and I don't have the money to hire a laywer but main question since I signed that form that said I said everything was the truth of what I was saying am I going to be forced to take this CVSA test anyways? Please help quick I need to know what to do in this type of situation! The guy told the cops I was selling the pills to him which I wasn't he just stole them and is trying to make me out to be the bad guy so he gets off the hook what should I do?

In this situation you would be wise to refuse any demand that you submit to a CVSA "test" and, furthermore, to speak no further with the police unless you have a lawyer with you.

Computer Voice Stress Analysis (CVSA) is junk science invented by a huckster. It is used by police as a pretext for interrogating suspects without a lawyer present. The outcome may very well be a scripted part of the interrogation plan. (The interrogator will tell you you failed and badger you for a confession, using the "test" results as leverage.)

For more about the charlatan who created CVSA see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr3E_2KTxI0

For more about why you should not speak with the police at all, let alone submit to an interrogation masquerading as "test," see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Posted by xenonman
 - Mar 26, 2017, 05:16 PM
Quotewhat should I do?

Once you have been charged (if that happens), contact the public defender in your jurisdiction ASAP.
Take NO tests of any kind.  Once LE has "determined" that you're guilty, they are going to use all their resources to push for your arrest and eventual conviction! :o
Posted by quickfix
 - Mar 26, 2017, 05:08 PM
Confess.
Posted by Beachbabe
 - Mar 26, 2017, 05:01 PM
I filed out a police report of my medication had been stolen from me and I signed a paper saying everything I said was the truth and now I got a call saying they want me to come in and take a CVSA test down at the station. What if the test says I failed it when I am actually telling the truth? I have bad nerves anyways around cops. I don't want to take the test and I don't have the money to hire a laywer but main question since I signed that form that said I said everything was the truth of what I was saying am I going to be forced to take this CVSA test anyways? Please help quick I need to know what to do in this type of situation! The guy told the cops I was selling the pills to him which I wasn't he just stole them and is trying to make me out to be the bad guy so he gets off the hook what should I do?
Posted by xenonman
 - May 24, 2016, 01:09 PM
Quote from: xenonman on Jun 09, 2013, 09:06 PMOne can NEVER "prove" their innocence to the cops.  If they mention a polygraph, tell them what they should do with it.  :P
Posted by xenonman
 - May 24, 2016, 01:07 PM
Quote from: xenonman on Jun 09, 2013, 09:06 PMOne can NEVER "prove" their innocence to the cops.  If they mention a polygraph, tell them what they should do with it.  :P
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - May 20, 2016, 02:46 PM
Marlene,

Your friend would be wise to refuse the polygraph. Polygraphy is a pseudoscientific fraud. It has no scientific basis, and a suspect's "failing" the "test" can be part of an investigator's interrogation plan.

Moreover, your friend would be well advised not to speak with anyone from law enforcement at all, for reasons explained here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Posted by Marlene
 - May 20, 2016, 02:14 PM
my friend has been accused of stealing money from a girl that is jealous bc he decided not to date him...now she has filed a charge and he has been asked to take a polygraph...it appears that the detective and the accuser are personal friends and this story has been fabricated to make him look bad! Pls advise?
Posted by Ex Member
 - Apr 11, 2016, 07:27 PM
James, I am not sure about NY State, but I know of other State Dept. of Corrections which employ the polygraph to monitor parolees/probationers' keeping to the terms of their release. It's a dog's life, so you may want to keep your hands in your pockets to be safe.
Posted by James A.Moore
 - Apr 11, 2016, 05:35 PM
I'm currently on parole in NYC.2 yeas ago while on parole I was arrested and charged with forcible touching.Subsequently the criminal charge was dismissed in my favor.Because I was on parole I received a parole violation. After a final parole hearing that administrative law judge dismissed all of the parole violation charges surrounding the forcible touching charge and stated that he found insufficient corroborating evidence to support the allegation.I was recently told by my parole officer that I would have to submit to a polygraph test.Is this legal???
Posted by xenonman
 - Oct 04, 2015, 05:04 PM
Quote from: pailryder on Dec 15, 2012, 08:09 AM
Quote from: Twoblock on Dec 13, 2012, 04:10 PMThe other alternative is take a .357 in and blow his brains out

Or simply find another job.

But not at a "three-letter" agency!  lol :)