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Posted by pailryder
- May 04, 2012, 07:13 AMQuoteI retained the services of a polygraph expert and took a polygraph myself and passed
Writer
You took a private test and cleared yourself from suspicion?
Posted by stefano
- May 03, 2012, 07:38 PMQuoteQuestion is:What do the authorities do when both parties "pass" the polygraph?Law enforcement uses the polygraph mainly for two purposes:
1. As a rubber hose to trick suspects into confessing.
2. As an aid to help them as to where to focus their resources.
If both parties "pass" the "test", then they must reach into another bag of tricks.
I suggest you don't take anymore polygraphs nor attend anymore "interviews." Decisions to charge a person are based on evidence, not good will gestures, or perceived demeanor during interviews. Keep your mouth shut and tell them where they can put their polygraph. This is not legal advice as I cannot give such, it's just my humble opinion.
Posted by Writer
- May 03, 2012, 05:57 PMHi, I used to be a health care provider for the State Of Missouri. Some time ago I was accused by a client of sexual molestation and was told by Family Health Services that client had taken a polygraph and passed. I retained the services of a polygraph expert and took a polygraph myself and passed with better than 95 percent certainty on all questions that might pertain to such a charge. When I attended the "interview" with Family Services with my Attorney present, I presented Family Services with a paper copy of the results of my polygraph. Family Services very quickly lost interest in me or pressed me again on the matter.
Question is: What do the authorities do when both parties "pass" the polygraph?
Question is: What do the authorities do when both parties "pass" the polygraph?
Posted by RoamingBack
- Feb 07, 2012, 01:18 PMHang tough... these are hard times and it sometimes appears that "evil" is pulling ahead. I don't think it will
win... stay in the fight!
win... stay in the fight!
Posted by SeekingRealJustice
- Jan 21, 2012, 11:25 AMThank you to those who show us some support. We haven't gone any further with this case because attorneys want cash up front when dealing with cases that involve Police Officer's "Qualified Immunity." I'm just a poor Nursing school student with two Autistic children. Restitution was ordered in this case, but we were told we will never see a dime, because the mother of the attacker is on welfare. The three year deadline for civil suits will be up on April 26th, 2012. We are also trying to save up money to pay for the plastic surgery my daughter needs on her neck, related to this attack. If someone was interested in donating any amount of money, send it to my paypal at dunkamania@yahoo.com Thank you.
Posted by honestabe
- Jul 08, 2011, 12:49 PMDon't let people get you angry or distracted from what you really need to accomplish here, which is revealing the truth. Keep plugging away. What is going on with the case right now?
Posted by hope you feel better
- Jun 12, 2011, 05:56 PMI really hope that you and you family can feel better, and this traumatic case doesnt affect your lives.
I hope that those police officers who framed you and your wife, will be caught and punished.
Best wishes to you and your family
I hope that those police officers who framed you and your wife, will be caught and punished.
Best wishes to you and your family
Posted by SeekingRealJustice
- Apr 09, 2011, 01:13 AMQuoteThis guy is obviously not a previous LE officer.No officer calls a vehicle pursuit, "Hot Pursuit" unless he or she is on a FOX reality show.
Mr. Bailey, you are a prime example of a typical officer who can't get his head out of his own ass in order to see past his own bias. In Michigan Complied Law (MCL) we have the "HOT PURSUIT" guidelines, which are established in MCL 764.16 and in Michigan case law: People v Reinhardt. The Michigan Commission On Law Enforcement Standards (MCOLES) has designated "Hot Pursuit" guidelines to be taught in the MCOLES Basic Training Curriculum and Training Objectives, which is for every Michigan Police Academy.
Thank you Mr. Baily. Thank you for proving there are some stupid Police Officers out there that make ignorant asinine assumptions, like the Officers in my daughter's case.
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mcoles/Basic_Training_Manual_Part_I-2011_342561_7.pdf
Posted by T. Bailey
- Feb 24, 2011, 06:56 PMI just came across the site while doing research for my FBI scheduled polygraph exam . This guy is obviously not a previous LE officer. No officer calls a vehicle pursuit, "Hot Pursuit" unless he or she is on a FOX reality show. Thanks for the info on the poly should make for some interesting conversation with the examiner.
Posted by Twoblock
- Nov 30, 2010, 02:36 PMHey Ace
Some people who visited this site and learned how to beat the polygraph beat your ass so bad that it crossed your optic nerves with your anal nerves that it gave you a shitty outlook on life.
Some people who visited this site and learned how to beat the polygraph beat your ass so bad that it crossed your optic nerves with your anal nerves that it gave you a shitty outlook on life.
Posted by pissed citizen
- Nov 30, 2010, 12:16 PM•Stay away from online site www.antipolygraph.org as its a US Government monitored and created sting website, set up to trap those that would research how to beat a polygraph.
Posted by SeekingRealJustice
- Oct 08, 2010, 11:22 PMDid I mention the head of the City Commission, the Mayor, is also the Under-sheriff for the county? He did help us during the investigation but, we were complaining to him the entire time and nothing has happened. The bad guys win again.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Oct 08, 2010, 12:33 AMYou might file your complaint then with those with authority over the Boyne City Police Department. Perhaps the city commission?
Posted by SeekingRealJustice
- Oct 07, 2010, 10:05 PMI've already contacted the Michigan ACLU. This is what they said:
"A complaint about police misconduct or abuse may be filed at the police department in which the officer(s) work. Every police agency has a formal citizen complaint process. When exhausting the complaint process at the police department, you may copy the ACLU. That is, you may notify the police department that a copy of your complaint has been forwarded to our office. Your complaint about police misconduct will be maintained in our office in order to establish any geographic patterns of police abuse. The ACLU may address instances of police abuse as facts are presented in cases that would have far-reaching consequences."
It seems counter productive for me to make a complaint with a Police Department who has their Assistant Chief of Police as the main suspect. I also believe the Police department would try to benefit by getting more information from the complaint interviews and try to build another false case against us.
"A complaint about police misconduct or abuse may be filed at the police department in which the officer(s) work. Every police agency has a formal citizen complaint process. When exhausting the complaint process at the police department, you may copy the ACLU. That is, you may notify the police department that a copy of your complaint has been forwarded to our office. Your complaint about police misconduct will be maintained in our office in order to establish any geographic patterns of police abuse. The ACLU may address instances of police abuse as facts are presented in cases that would have far-reaching consequences."
It seems counter productive for me to make a complaint with a Police Department who has their Assistant Chief of Police as the main suspect. I also believe the Police department would try to benefit by getting more information from the complaint interviews and try to build another false case against us.
Posted by George W. Maschke
- Oct 07, 2010, 06:11 AMYou were wise to refuse the polygraph. Not only is polygraphy without scientific basis, but as used by police in criminal investigations, it is often little more than a pretext for interrogating a suspect without a lawyer present. The suspect's "failure" can be part of a pre-planned interrogation strategy, and even if the outcome is not predetermined, examiner biases can influence outcomes.
Blinded by faith in the pseudoscience of polygraphy (or guided by their gut feelings), polygraphers (and other interrogators trusting their results), have even coerced false confessions from numerous persons later proven to be innocent. See, for example, the cases of Matthew Livers, Byron Halsey, Jeffrey Deskovic, Abdallah Higazy, and Kevin Fox.
I wish you all success in pursuing civil action regarding this matter. You might want to contact the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, as the police misconduct you have alleged has implications that extend beyond the trauma that your family has endured.
Blinded by faith in the pseudoscience of polygraphy (or guided by their gut feelings), polygraphers (and other interrogators trusting their results), have even coerced false confessions from numerous persons later proven to be innocent. See, for example, the cases of Matthew Livers, Byron Halsey, Jeffrey Deskovic, Abdallah Higazy, and Kevin Fox.
I wish you all success in pursuing civil action regarding this matter. You might want to contact the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, as the police misconduct you have alleged has implications that extend beyond the trauma that your family has endured.