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Posted by Bill_Brown
 - May 13, 2011, 05:15 PM
I have read the several studies conducted.  I have never used the methodology myself and have no experience with it.  The published studies "suggest" it is very accurate what ever that means.

I saw the post and quickly thought of this, however the poster was unable to remember the exact wording which is important. 

Posted by stefano
 - May 13, 2011, 01:38 PM
Quote from: Bill_Brown on May 13, 2011, 03:28 AMAre you referring to hope of error vs fear of error? 
The "fear of error" is his "control question", the "resignation" is the "relevant." I read through his reasoning and I find it to be speculative and vague--hogwash.
Posted by Bill_Brown
 - May 13, 2011, 03:28 AM
stefano

Are you referring to hope of error vs fear of error?
Posted by stefano
 - May 12, 2011, 11:46 PM
Quote from: 4C65676572000 on May 06, 2011, 04:27 AM"do you hope there will be a mistake during the polygraph that will be in your favor?"
George this sounds like an attempt at Matte's "resignation relevant question" that he invented in what he calls the QUADRI-ZONE comparsion technique. It's nonsense in my humble opinion.
Posted by Leger
 - May 07, 2011, 02:00 AM
Quote from: stefano on May 07, 2011, 12:34 AM
Quote from: 644D4F4D5A280 on May 06, 2011, 04:27 AM"do you hope there will be a mistake during the polygraph that will be in your favor?"
Is this the exact wording of the question? If not, can you possibly give the exact wording as much as your memory serves?

I don't think those were the exact words but they were the closest I could come up with. Sorry stefano.
Posted by stefano
 - May 07, 2011, 12:34 AM
Quote from: 644D4F4D5A280 on May 06, 2011, 04:27 AM"do you hope there will be a mistake during the polygraph that will be in your favor?"
Is this the exact wording of the question? If not, can you possibly give the exact wording as much as your memory serves?
Posted by George W. Maschke
 - May 06, 2011, 06:00 AM
There is no such thing as a separate "test question" exam to determine an examinee's baseline, and polygraph charts are not scored by comparison to separate chart collections. So yes, your polygrapher was lying to you. This sounds like it may have been a misdirection technique.

The questions you mention sound like sacrifice relevant questions. In any event, they are not probable-lie control questions.

If you could send me a private message, I'd be interested to know who or what agency employed this technique.
Posted by Leger
 - May 06, 2011, 04:27 AM
During my polygraph, the examiner stated that he was going to give me a separate "test question" exam. He told me he was going to get my baseline off of this test and compare them to my "real test", he did this once and did the normal test 3-4 times changing the order of the questions (relevant/irrelevant "test"). I'm curious to find out if it's likely that he conducted the first test to "throw me off" of the control questions on the "real" exam.

I suspected that there were control questions in the real exam (not the first set of questions he gave me) "do you intend to be completely truthful today?", "do you hope there will be a mistake during the polygraph that will be in your favor?", or "are you going to try and trick the polygraph during your exam?". Those were the questions that seemed remotely close to control questions.

My question is was likely he being truthful when telling me the first set of questions was to get my baseline for a comparison of the real test?
Do any of the example questions I listed look like control questions?

I have read The Lie behind the Lie detector a couple of times and can't seem to decipher those questions.

Thanks in advance for any responses.