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Posted by son of lou
- Apr 28, 2009, 11:31 AMYou're not a lone man. I came across unfortunate experience with San Diego Police Poly test last year. I asked the examiner how I was doing, but he said, I did alright at the first time. Then in few days, I received a letter that I was rejected. I had no idea whether it was about the test or something else. I called many times to find out why I was being rejected, but never find the person in charge of my file.
I think something big going on not only with polygraphy test, but the entire department of justice has a lot of discrimination. Because they complicated the application process like hell. One may pass the poly test, but you can still be rejected with simple things like credit backgrounds, psysical test, or something else. That is very stressfull for someone wh really want to be a law enforcement officer.
I am very sorry for your history, but I believe the answers from other fellows can help you get to where you wanted to be.
BEST
I think something big going on not only with polygraphy test, but the entire department of justice has a lot of discrimination. Because they complicated the application process like hell. One may pass the poly test, but you can still be rejected with simple things like credit backgrounds, psysical test, or something else. That is very stressfull for someone wh really want to be a law enforcement officer.
I am very sorry for your history, but I believe the answers from other fellows can help you get to where you wanted to be.
BEST
Posted by user23
- Mar 05, 2009, 07:43 PMWow, my poly for the VPD is next week. Im reading up on this antipoly ebook.
Posted by hiding4now
- Jan 28, 2009, 11:57 PMI may have spoke to soon. Seems like the site is down. Will it return? Tune in next week for the exciting conclusion. 
Posted by hiding4now
- Jan 28, 2009, 11:52 PMwow...that link is already down. That's just scary. I hope its just a temporary technical problem. Is this what our society has come to? Talk about Big Brother. wow....
Posted by T.M. Cullen
- Jan 26, 2009, 02:38 AMThanks for the above link.
A very interesting thread of LE types talking truthfully about the polygraph. Saying the same thing I've been saying on this board, but polygraphers have repeatedly denied. Namely, that polygraphers ROUTINELY MISREPRESENT polygraph accuracy and tell examinees it's purpose is to test their truthfulness, when it is actually just used a way of legally interrogating a suspect under duress without an attorney present!
Refer the above link to the RCMP gents who are trying to get you to take the polygraph.
TC
A very interesting thread of LE types talking truthfully about the polygraph. Saying the same thing I've been saying on this board, but polygraphers have repeatedly denied. Namely, that polygraphers ROUTINELY MISREPRESENT polygraph accuracy and tell examinees it's purpose is to test their truthfulness, when it is actually just used a way of legally interrogating a suspect under duress without an attorney present!
Refer the above link to the RCMP gents who are trying to get you to take the polygraph.
TC
Posted by hiding4now
- Jan 25, 2009, 05:01 PMDang, i flubbed the verification code. So one more time. Thanks for the advice, I believe I will follow it. Now I'm mad. How did I get tied into this BS? When I asked the officer at the first interview, he wouldn't tell me. Do I have a right to know who my accuser is? I may still go talk to a lawyer, or at least do some more research myself to find out what my rights are here in Canada.
The RCMP do not have a very good reputation here, frankly they scare the crap out of me. After watching them kill that guy in the Vancouver airport, all the stalling to stop the video from getting out and then the courts letting them off the hook, I lost all respect for them. And that's just the most famous one recently. Its been scandal after scandal. I guess you can't believe your lying eyes. Oh ya, before i go, check out this link, it seems law enforcement types don't even buy into this polygraph garbage. They think its funny. http://forums.blueline.ca/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=357814
The RCMP do not have a very good reputation here, frankly they scare the crap out of me. After watching them kill that guy in the Vancouver airport, all the stalling to stop the video from getting out and then the courts letting them off the hook, I lost all respect for them. And that's just the most famous one recently. Its been scandal after scandal. I guess you can't believe your lying eyes. Oh ya, before i go, check out this link, it seems law enforcement types don't even buy into this polygraph garbage. They think its funny. http://forums.blueline.ca/viewtopic.php?f=19&p=357814
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Posted by T.M. Cullen
- Jan 25, 2009, 02:41 AMWhether you signed something or not, you DO NOT have to take a polygraph. Tell them you found out the TRUTH about the polygraph and have decided not to take it.
We just had a police officer admit on this board that they trick people into taking the polygraph by insinuating that it is a chance for them to "eliminate you as a suspect", which they know is not true! They are just trying to get a chance to interrogate you without having a lawyer present and trying to force a confession out of you!
If you do CAVE and end up taking the test, read the "Lie Behind The Lie Detector" before taking the test.
Good Luck
TC
We just had a police officer admit on this board that they trick people into taking the polygraph by insinuating that it is a chance for them to "eliminate you as a suspect", which they know is not true! They are just trying to get a chance to interrogate you without having a lawyer present and trying to force a confession out of you!
If you do CAVE and end up taking the test, read the "Lie Behind The Lie Detector" before taking the test.
Good Luck
TC
Posted by hiding4now
- Jan 25, 2009, 01:25 AMI'm in the same boat as Amy. A safe was stolen at a gas station in the middle of the day (must not been much of a safe) a year and a half ago, and now they want to polygraph me. I agreed to the test and signed a document saying I would do it. I should have done the research first, but i didn't know what it was about, and certainly wasn't expecting to be asked to do a poly. I was just asked to go to the police station to talk to the officer about something he couldn't divulge over the phone. And I honestly had no clue what it was about. I thought maybe I passed some old fart on the highway, and he didn't like the way I did it so he reported my plate or something like that. Lots of retirees driving around here, doing 60-70 kph on the highway. Oh ya, I am Canadian. The cop had mentioned that there was $3500.00 in the safe. I make that in a month. I'm a Systems Administrator for a medium sized company, I have a nice enough life. I would never even think of doing something like this. Now I'm nervous. On another note, can they ask me questions not in relation to the incident? I break the law a couple times a week, its a law I truly believe should not be a crime. Prohibition is a colossal waste of time and tax payers money. Have we figured out what I'm doing? Any way, can they ask me about that? Or any other off topic subject? I guess I better go talk to a lawyer...... am i boned because i signed that document?
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- Jan 16, 2009, 01:20 AMQuote from: pailryder on Jan 14, 2009, 01:28 PMftloo1
So the police interviewed your girlfriend and you and you agreed to take a poly and only after you arrived at the police station you realize that her daughter has accused you of sexual molestation. That is your story? What did you think the test would concern?
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Posted by pailryder
- Jan 14, 2009, 01:28 PMftloo1
So the police interviewed your girlfriend and you and you agreed to take a poly and only after you arrived at the police station you realize that her daughter has accused you of sexual molestation. That is your story? What did you think the test would concern?
So the police interviewed your girlfriend and you and you agreed to take a poly and only after you arrived at the police station you realize that her daughter has accused you of sexual molestation. That is your story? What did you think the test would concern?
Posted by Amy Brickmen
- Dec 20, 2008, 12:21 PM Hey There, There was an incident that happened near my house and I had nothing to do with it. The Police Officer in charge asked if I would take a lie Dec. Test. "Absolutely", I said. I have nothing to lie about..
Well I wanted to do some research on this test before I really go down and do it....
Now, with the things I've read, I don't think I want anything to do with this Test at all..
So thanks for sharing your HORRIBLE story. I am sorry that had to happen to you.....
Well I wanted to do some research on this test before I really go down and do it....
Now, with the things I've read, I don't think I want anything to do with this Test at all..
So thanks for sharing your HORRIBLE story. I am sorry that had to happen to you.....
Posted by Laine
- Dec 08, 2008, 02:10 PMI just came across your blog quite by accident. I, too, had a very unfortunate experience with a SDPD polygraph exam a couple of years ago.
At the conclusion of the test, the examiner said I failed because was "less than honest" about drug use. Years prior I had taken a puff of a marijuana joint. I have NEVER used drugs...yet, based upon their reading of fluctuations in my heart rate, I was disqualified. It's interesting that SDPD is short staffed...I was applying for a Traffic Controller position I had held several years previously and then quit.
When I reapplied, a polygraph exam was now part of the application process. After this experience, I now look at polygraph exams as not the best method of screening job applicants.
At the conclusion of the test, the examiner said I failed because was "less than honest" about drug use. Years prior I had taken a puff of a marijuana joint. I have NEVER used drugs...yet, based upon their reading of fluctuations in my heart rate, I was disqualified. It's interesting that SDPD is short staffed...I was applying for a Traffic Controller position I had held several years previously and then quit.
When I reapplied, a polygraph exam was now part of the application process. After this experience, I now look at polygraph exams as not the best method of screening job applicants.
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